Time for Farage to "take a break"?

nabby

Once again, I don't disagree with what you're saying. It's the perfect reason to raise the age of consent to at least 18 too. If you're not mature enough to vote or fight or go to prison you're definitely not mature enough to have sex and the potential consequences of doing so.

Iain42

I agree with the principal of your point, however the problem with using the fact that someone could be paying NI and income tax at 16 or 17, therefore contributes, therefore should vote, is that the opposite should then be applied to those in full time education.  In that case, and following that logic, maybe they wouldn't be allowed to vote until they were 21, 22, 23, or older.  That then becomes very messy, so 18 seems a sensible compromise.

If anything, given the fact that youngsters are in full time education for longer these days, on average, there would be an argument to raise the minimum age to reflect the average of when contributions start.

logiciel

How many, or what proportion, are?

Sonic67

And if you never pay contributions at all and live permanently on handouts you should never vote? Ooo that would be brave.

krish

Starting this year, aren't all young people in full-time education up to 18, therefore cannot hold full time jobs?

pragmatic

You can leave it if you have work, being able to knock 2 years of the youth unemployment figures will play well for the stats though.

IronGiant

Looks like Rasczak isn't going to answer my question then

Maybe he missed it:

Why does the referendum affect 16/17 year olds more than anybody else?

Rasczak

Don't take this the wrong way IronGiant but you can't really 'demand' anyone answers your questions. There is a degree of pack mentality about anyone who expresses a contrary view on this forum and it is impossible - nor desirable - to answer everyone.

This said I tend to rate your posts somewhat higher than most and in this instance it was nothing to do with 'ignoring' your question - Sve answered it. 16/17 year olds undoubtedly have much to lose or gain - their entire futures - from Brexit. The same applies for anyone under 16 of course - but the precedent has lowered the bar successfully to 16 so why revert back? You and I have made our fortunes - we have our houses, our pensions, our savings - and could quite comfortably ride out a UK economic meltdown. Less so for the youngsters just starting out.

IronGiant

Calm down, and get off your high horse I wasn't demanding anything, or even suggesting you were ignoring it. Sve derisively suggested what he thought you would say and I told him to back off, to allow your goodself a chance to speak for yourself. Thank you for now taking the time to do so.

Sonic67

16/17 year olds will be living with their parents who apparently are going to be fine during this apocalypse.

It's odd but the last actual economic meltdown I saw was when I was in Cyprus with the UN two years ago and there was a run on the banks. The message that went out then was to those from Germany to hide your cars as they were largely being blamed by the populace for the disaster and they might find cars with German number plates trashed. We were also advised not to go out as muggings were up as more people were carrying cash rather than use banks. Numerous businesses collapsed and shops were boarded up. Money to pay UN staff went into a guarded building again due to banks collapsing.