Time for Farage to "take a break"?

Iain42

Sorry, I just don't believe that to be correct.

We both voted conservative. Some friends along the road, one voted Labour, one voted Lib Dem. All four of us agree that we should leave the EU, and that uncontrolled, unskilled immigration is a huge problem, and should be halted.  In fact I've heard the Labour voter use the word "repatriation".  Just an anecdote from me, but I hardly think we're unique.

Rasczak

I don't think those two lines are mutually exclusive.

EarthRod

Hold on while I untangle your double negative .

hdsport

Well it depends what it's polling the referendums are a little easier to predict.  That said it's going to be the automatic response from everyone for the next couple of years, e.g. a poll shows people want to leave the EU, UKIP will be celebrating it whilst everyone else will be saying you can't trust the polls and vice versa.

Sonic67

Based on what? We have GE's all the time and they didn't get that right. How many referendums have we had on the EU?

Rasczak

I think we can be fairly certain that the EU referendum will be a victory for the stay in campaign. I suspect by the time Cameron has 'acquired more powers from the EU' and packaged them up as a victory there will be broad support for it.

pragmatic

Can we?  Who you trying to convince

Sonic67

Himself, he said just a few months ago that a Conservative victory would be "an unmitigated disaster", so a bit of a turn around from that. For years he didn't want a referendum at all as he thought the electorate would be too stupid to vote the right way.

Besides I don't have a problem if the result is we keep the EU at arms length. Ironically he says he wants reform of the EU but doesn't see we might get the best result from having a referendum. Scotland did.

I am not bothered on whether we stay in or leave, I am more concerned with what's best for the UK. No one had a problem when we just joined the common market.

Toko Black

It's not a case of rather be in or out, but a case of how important that issue is.

The NHS, UK economy, Immigration, Welfare;benifits;pensions, Jobs and pay, Education, Crime/Law and order and housing were all more important issues to the electorate than the EU - source BBC

Immigration and the EU are two separate issues that were conflated by EU skeptics to increase support.
They do share some arguments, but then so does Crime, education, the economy etc.
Someone can be against all immigrants, only those from outside the EU or even only those from specific regions, religions or cultural backgrounds.
Some people want out of the EU for purely sovereignty issues.
We had immigration before we joined the EU and would even if we left.
We have accepted legitimate refuges and asylum seekers for many years, as well as required economic migrants to fill important roles.

The NHS was the biggest issue for the electorate, yet without immigration, it would fall over. 40% of the Premiership managers are not British.

pragmatic

You do realize you're simply reinforcing my point?  Peoples feelings on the EU have no direct correlation on their voting in the general election (well excepting UKIP maybe).

Who is saying Zero immigration?
A deeper problem is why in all the time the NHS has existed we've had a chronic shortage of natively trained staff?

Why the artificial limits on Nurse and Medicine courses?