Sonic67
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:18:45
It was a proEU government. I'm not sure it would go so well now.
It was a proEU government. I'm not sure it would go so well now.
Exactly. Osbourne and the pro EU government went after we, the electorate, voted to leave.
It was a proEU government. I'm not sure it would go so well now.
I posted a humorous video in response to Enki. For some reason you think I now answer for Dyson's business practices as the song mentions Dyson.
weaviemx5
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:18:45
https://www.avforums.com/attachments/upload_2018-2-6_14-22-20-png.975974/
Let's continue to agree to disagree eh, although I think your copy/paste missed this one?Ford UK took £450million from the same EU bank fund in 2010.Double standards?
Sonic67
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:18:45
1. It was a loan. When a bank loans you money it's not because they like you. It's because they like to make money from you.
2. As a contributor to the EU it's a shame we didn't cut out the EU, loan the money and then we get the money back plus the interest.
3. The money was for Ford to get the cleaner standards the EU demanded.
United Kingdom: GBP 450 million to Ford for new generation of environmentally friendly vehicle technologies
The European Investment Bank’s funding for Ford supports research, development and innovation of a new generation of fuel efficient and low-emission diesel and petrol engines under the European Clean Transport Facility. Research and development of petrol engines will include additional investment in Ford’s Bridgend plant, located in a European Convergence Region.
So EU demands lower emissions, lends the money, gets the money back plus interest.
Cliff
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:18:45
Unless May, drives a hard bargain with Barnier who is in town now, she is toast.
Let's have someone who is not " carrying out the wishes of the people" against their better judgment. We want someone who actually believes in leaving.
weaviemx5
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:18:46
What was the money given to the Ford plant in Turkey by the same bank?
Sonic67
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:18:46
Money that led to job losses and rivalled production here.
weaviemx5
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:18:46
Ah ok, I thought it was a loan from a bank following a request from Ford to grow their profitable factory.Surely the anger should be aimed at Ford as a business seeing as they chose to close their unprofitable Southampton plant.
Anyway, it's impossible to have a discussion when all roads are tenuously pointed back at the EU being to blame.
Sonic67
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:18:46
Or down to the EU for demanding new standards pushing Ford into needing money and making economies and having to move factories to where the work force is cheaper.
People take loans out of necessity.
weaviemx5
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:18:48
Now you're just being difficult.Ford chose to implement those changes to the UK production in 2010 and took a £450million loan from the same EIB bank.Two years later they announced Southampton would close in 2013;
Ford Southampton plant - Wikipedia
"On 26 October 2012, Ford announced that, as part of a larger cutback of their European production capacity, the Southampton factory would close altogether in July 2013, with production for Europe of all the new Transit models shifted to Turkey. The Dagenham Stamping Plant was also to be shut down; this plant had provided most of the sheet metal panels for the Southampton Assembly Plant. The last Transit went into production on 15 July 2013 and was completed on 26 July.
Workers who had not accepted either redundancy or early retirement were redeployed to:
A new £12M distribution centre at Southampton DocksA new vehicle refurbishment plant at the existing site, employing 134 staffFord's other UK factories manufacturing engines, at Bridgend (petrol) or Dagenham (diesel)."Those who wanted to were re-deployed to other Ford sites and the rest (Ford staff at least) seemed pretty happy with their settlement packages;
http://www.eastleighnews.co.uk/2012/10/ford-workers-celebrate-bumper-pay-offs/
"Initial shock gave way to jubilation for somestaff after they were told that when the factory closes on July 26 next year, they would be in line for payments of up to £100,000 provided production was not disrupted"
Anyway, back to Theresa May's replacement.
weaviemx5
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:18:48
Do you think there is anyone who's both a suitable leader of the Party/Country and actually wants to leave the EU?
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