1. It hasn't happened. It might. Let's get excited if the EU does become more democratic.
2. We are leaving.
3. For me still only one issue. I'd prefer the EU to be a lot less EU and a lot more common market.
Shifting factories so production can be done cheaper elsewhere?
Shifting Production To Central And Eastern Europe Could Boost Profits Of German Automakers
Italian factory owner moves company to Poland while staff are on holiday
Production cost savings lure suppliers to Eastern Europe
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“In a move typical of today’s interconnected world, Dell, the US computer manufacturer, in late 2008 shifted production from Limerick in Ireland to a factory in Lodz, Poland. That factory was later sold on to Foxconn, the Taiwanese contract electronics manufacturer”.
Note I am only including the movement of production from countries that are still in the EU, so Brexit can’t be blamed on this movement.
Also the EU moves our money from us to these countries. We are building these countries up to be our competitors.
Then there was the EU using money for a Ford factory in Turkey and we had job losses here.
Ford’s £80m EU loan boosts Turkey factory and Southampton closes
Focus on Ford: The £80m EU loan for Ford's Turkish Transit plant
Not a chance will the three Amigos pull the trigger that is at Mays head, they will stamp scream and pull off their pants when it suits, but they will settle for a bit of bitty time. They trust polls like everyone should trust a Tory government statistic and are petrified of losing the ensuing election. Just faux pas grab for power to twist Government hand. Power for the Conservative Party overarches everything, the only caveat would be if all was lost scenario on Brexit and a case of what the hell.
I wasn't commenting on the move of finances from/to the EU, I was commenting on that music video you shared where the one UK product it's applauding is the export of Dyson hoovers to the world.I was just stating the fact that for all of his Pro-Brexit drum banging, James Dyson has ripped millions from the UK economy and moved production to the Far East where he can hire/fire staff with no legal concerns and pay considerably lower wages/taxes.
After we leave, do you think he's going to return to his homeland to share his success?
Should, is that the new"could"?Seriously though, it's a nice sentiment, but it's hardly a commitment is it?
I wouldn't take the video too seriously. I don't. It also mentions EU fishing policy.
"Casting off the red tape and reclaiming our fish."
As with other industry, low level, cheap manufacturing will probably always happen elsewhere. Design or more technical manufacturer will happen here or other countries with a high level workforce.
Grrr, can't get past you can I ;0)
At the moment, nobody is committing anything so everything that we're all sharing is speculative/hopeful/made up data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
It was an interesting snippet of information, thanks for posting.If a ramification of Britain leaving is that the EU reassesses where it is going then that can only be a good thing, possibly too late to be of any real benefit to us though.
We're drifting off into Brexit again, but are you really not concerned about a large manufacturer moving production to the other side of the world, yet still being heralded as a good British business?I know it was just used as an example in a terrible song but it's not the first time and that's just one company.
I agree that maybe more skilled design roles could be retained in the UK within their Hullavington site but it is concerning how much money they've invested outside of the UK because of their 30% reduction in costs as a result.Business is business, but when the UK is trying to branch out on their own, we need all of the large companies on our side as we can get.
Dyson (company) - Wikipedia
"It is said that Dyson has around 7,000 employees. Dyson has not publicly stated where those employees are actually located, though it is known that VS Industry Bhd (VSI) currently has around 4,250 employees at their Malaysian facility which manufactures Dyson products, and in 2007 it was reported that Dyson alone was responsible for 80% of VS Industry Bhd (VSI) revenue.
Dyson launched a $360 million plant in Tuas, Singapore in 2013, which can produce 4 million digital motors a year. In 2016, Dyson injected $100 million to increase the production output to an estimated 11 million digital motors a year."
Were you not concerned at the EU funding a car factory in Turkey and a Ford factory closing here?
Are you not concerned that our money goes to Eastern European countries through the EU that will then compete with us?
Manufacturing costs in China is lower than it is here. I can't change that, but are you saying you want to see tarrifs imposed on goods made elsewhere?
Only that sounds like Trump.
Dyson designs vacuums etc here. They are made in China as production is cheaper. They could be manufactured here and he could stick "Made In Britain" stickers on them. Or he can have them made elsewhere which presumably means he stays in business thanks to low manufacturing costs. Presumably they studied the options and went accordingly with what they think is best.
If you don't like it don't buy them. My vacuum is a cheap one from Argus. I didn't vote to leave based on Dyson. I presume you didn't vote to remain as Blair says.
Do you ever even read past headlines?Having read both of those articles you've linked to, I can see the following;
1) The second paragraph states directly (with no evidence it seems) that £10million of UK Government cash was used as part of the £80million loan.
2) However, the loan was approved by the EIB, of which the UK is one of 27 members and the article states, in the last line funnily enough, "But it raises the bulk of its lending funds from international money markets."
3) The UK Government was aware of the loan request (Osborne approved it) and allowed it to go ahead. (what was that you said about the UK Government not standing for things that negatively impact us?)
3) Ford was forecasting pan-European losses of £930million and could only keep 2 plants.
4) The Southampton plant had 500 workers in total, working 1 shift
5) The Turkish plant had £3.9billion in sales with £245million profit
6) The Treasury pointed out that Ford UK benefited from up to £450m of EIB funding in 2010
Whilst I'd rather work was retained within the UK, as with Dyson, it appears to have been a business decision that Ford made to invest in their most profitable factory.I agree that Dyson has done the same from the view of cheap labour but at least Ford aren't going on TV shouting for a Brexit deal for the UK like some sort of patriot.
And by the way, what's Blair got to do with it?You already know I voted Remain, it's pretty obvious surely?