You want out, whatever the cost. You've been pretty clear about that since before the vote. Depending on what the growth level actually is outside of the EU and how long it takes to get the UK's fiscal position sorted, then people may decide we are worse off outside the EU. It's just one of those things nobody can predict with any certainty. There is a limited window to make Brexit a success or you might see a successful campaign that leads to the UK rejoining the EU at a later date.
You also have to factor in the debt and need to service it. Which means whichever party is in power will have a much smaller pot of cash to spend on public services. So I'd be expecting in the case of low growth to see tax increases to balance the budget.
I voted based on the premise that the clowns in Westminster are incapable of delivering Brexit and whatever they did deliver would be damaging. So my choice was better the devil you know and voted remain. Would I make the same choice again ? Most likely. And yes I know Brexit is happening and we are leaving the EU. Doesn't preclude anyone from making positive or negative assessments of various outcomes for a post Brexit UK. Which is what I've been looking at since the vote alongside the process of Brexit.
We could have vetoed things we didn't like before they reached the stage of implementation and thus under the jurisdiction of EU courts. It's quite simple to blame the EU for everything, but when you look at what successive Governments did or did not do, then things tend to balance out. As for the Government being accountable ? It will only be truly accountable until we have fundamental constitutional reforms, not least chucking FPTP in the bin where it belongs. I want a written constitution, but we are unlikely to get one barring a scandal that brings the monarchy down (as long as the monarchy remains as is, the constitution will likely remain as is).
The voice of reason data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7 Neither side can claim to know where we will be in 2 , 5, 20 years.
Everyone in the country was sent a propaganda booklet saying we'd be worse off. We still voted to leave. And, fair enough, Marmite went up. Oh and Toblerone lost some chunks.
Can't see it. Ever.
We'd have to give billions to the EU, accept mass migration, hand over powers to the EU again, accept the Euro, and whatever else the EU would want from us. Good luck selling that lot.
Last time around it was sold to us as joining "a common market."
"Fool me once" etc.
Depends. Some people want to see Labour in, who freely admit they just don't care.
Labour's extra borrowing would pay for itself, says McDonnell
Asked nine times by BBC Radio 4’s Today presenter Mishal Husain how much extra it would cost to service public debt under Labour, McDonnell refused to give a figure. Instead he repeatedly claimed that extra borrowing would “pay for itself”.
There you go. Our Shadow Chancellor has calculated you can just borrow and it will pay for itself. Job jobbed.
The EU stands for ever closer union. If we had voted to stay in the EU would have taken it as a ringing endorsement. We'd be on a continuous escalator and would never get a chance to vote again. I voted based on the premise that our clowns could be removed and those in Brussels or wherever there parliament is today, can't.
Would I make the same choice again? Every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
We? We? Our proEU MPs had to take a hard lesson that we the electorate weren't on board with them. I wouldn't have trusted them to veto what we the electorate didn't like if we had voted to remain.
Probably more to do with being a regressive, fillibustering back bencher smug loudmouth who's achieved absolutely nothing in politics.
He does shout hard brexit a lot though, which seems to be the only reason for his popularity.
I was merely taking a quote from our democratically elected Prine Minister that was in the BBC article you shared (which was coincidentally a complete copy of the article written for the Independant?)
I never said Cameron was anything other than the PM.He was yet another waste of time Tory PM (as per this thread, to get it back on course).
Not to mention talking perfect sense (Economically) , 99% of the timedata:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
Jeremy Hunt telling POTUS to go fudge himself today may have elevated him to candidate status.
The split is possibly on - Tory MP Anna Soubry Urges Theresa May To Force 'Hard Ideological Brexiteers' Out Of Conservative Party
Laugh it up if you want, but if enough follow Anna Soubry's lead, then wave bye to bye to the minority Tory Government.
The chances are someone senior will have a quiet word with Anna Soubry.
Even the Tory Party wouldn't be so stupid as to carry out a 'split' based on who voted Brexit and who voted Remain.
Everyone who has long standing interest in Britain and relationship with the EU knows it was the French and Germans that stopped EU signing up to TTIP, well frustrated negotiations enough for Trump to walk away. Boris Johnson very openly described our own anti TTIP people as 'numskulls' and 'left wing misery guts'. Even Rees Mogg once upon a time would sell the virtues of TTIP. Both would have signed us up and will with something very similar which will be far more damaging to British democracy and sovereignty given the chance!