Personally I was against Brexit but after the vote it was a case of being grown up.
I don't somehow think the word "we" is appropriate or pull together for that matter. With the government bitterly divided over what kind of Brexit we end up with and an increasing number of the public believing it should be stopped altogether, show there is no great public collective will to be dragged along a route beset with uncertainty.I believe the word we can only be applied to leavers with a clear agenda be it ideological or who have business interests they wish to take advantage including safeguarding offshore tax havens.The rest of us are being dragged along like lemmings fed by a constant stream of platitudes of the "we are taking back control, there is a big wide world we can trade with" variety. Remainers are very conscious of this and putting aside the outrage they feel at being forced to sacrifice their EU privileges, they are extremely apprehensive about what the future holds for them. Platitudes simply don't fill the gap left by any form of Brexit let alone the hard variety which the impact assessments make clear will be terrible. Asking Remainers to pull together is like asking them to throw themselves off a cliff with their Brexit brethren, metaphorically speaking, and they are not prepared to do it.
Standing aside and looking with increasing horror at what is happening in the HOC all we can hope is that if Mogg takes control of the party the likes of Soubry and other brave Remainers walk out of the party and leave him with no majority whatsoever. He would then have to call for another election which would be fought on Brexit alone
Hardly surprising about the badly executed bit.
More and more it's looking like the Greece saga.Dragging on and on, with seemingly no progress and kicking the can down the road.
Better to take swift and decisive action. Take the hit now but come out stronger (eventually) on the other side.
Remind me again.. Which party is for Remaining?
the Lib Dems but there are several MPs in both major parties who are Remainers, indeed Corbyn is under considerable pressure to change his position not least because so many young people who were attracted to Momentum are very disappointed with his current "that ship has sailed" stance.
If the Tory Party Splits, and no Government can be formed we will be looking at a General Election, given the Parliamentary maths doesn't work for Corbyn forming a Government. If Parliament won't dissolve itself, that's when the Queen will have to step in and exercise her constitutional power to call an election, something she'd rather not do.
There isn't a massive ideological schism amongst the other parties when it comes to the internal structures of the parties, whereas there is within the Tory party. The Tories are so divided over the EU, I'm expecting we'll end up with a No Deal Brexit. I voted remain for a number of reasons, not least that the clowns in Westminster (all Parties) couldn't negotiate their way out of a paper bag.
It's not the public's Brexit. It's whatever the Politicians and civil servants cook up in
whitehall and the EU approves or disapproves of. Yes you can register your pleasure or displeasure at whatever Brexit is after it's happened, but that won't change the outcome.
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When the dust settles it will be the public's brexit. It will be the UKs brexit. That is the point about getting it right now
The current Government appears unable to agree on a common position on Brexit, so it's not going to be done right at this point, unless they somehow find a common position that doesn't split the Tory Party (it's not impossible, just incredibly difficult). Again if you want Brexit to succeed then you need some kind of deal with the EU to give breathing space to figure out where the UK is going (yes we are leaving the EU, but where do we go after that ?). I see a lot of talk about Brexit, but precious little on how various long term problems are going to be resolved. Be it infrastructure or the inequalities that helped the Leave side win Brexit. Once we are out of the EU and trade between the UK and EU is settled, and if we've done nothing to fix the UK's problems then I wouldn't want to be an MP. As all that fury will be directed at Westminster. Brexit means Politicians can no longer kick issues into the long grass. Indeed a clever Politician would probably try and sell Brexit as a package i.e. This is how we are leaving the EU, this is the trading relationship and this is how I want to change society going forward.
I firmly believe we need to devolve power away from Westminster and into the big cities and regions as a way of keeping the UK intact. Otherwise, the SNP will probably take advantage of any short to medium term brexit problems to win independence.
If. You've been predicting a split for how many years now? Usually the only Tory who voted against the party was Ken Clarke. Let's be generous and add Soubry as well. Who else? Still keeping their powder dry? It must be as dry as the Atacama desert now.
The Labour party used to have a battle every week. Even now most would like to see Corbyn gone. Unfortunately for Labour he wasn't a disaster. A few in Labour like Chukka don't want to leave the EU, Others like Hoey do. I know as I'm still getting emails from the Labour Leave group.
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You can. Democracy doesn't stop. If you'd have said to me a few years ago we'd leave the EU I wouldn't believe it. We did. There's some on here who are convinced we'd rejoin. Changes aren't permanent but change is.