Why does the West have an increasing anti-semitism issue?

EarthRod

Hmmm....

I shall now leave this thread.

weaviemx5

Why?  I never really get why people announce that they're leaving a thread.  We're never really 'joined' to a thread as it's an open forum.  If there is something you don't agree with isn't it better to put your thoughts across?

Sonic67

Labour under Gordon Brown said "British jobs for British people."

The Conservatives drove round with billboard vans saying "go home."

What's that about cherry picking?

Also note, from the survey the only people currently acknowledging as "Ukip" is probably a small hardcore now.

Labour has far more people in it. 30 odd % of Ukip probably isn't many. 30 odd % of Labour is a lot.

Bl4ckGryph0n

The demonym is European, European is Caucasian. I’d say I look exactly like the stereotypical immigrant relevant to UKIP and Brexit.

And actually through school my youngest daughter is going through hate crime. So please don’t make unfounded assumptions.

robel

This is quite an interesting read for those who dont fully understand the oldest hatred….

"The word “antisemitism” was popularised by the German journalist Wilhelm Marr. His polemic, Der Sieg des Judentums über das Germentum (The Victory of Jewry over Germandom), was published in 1879. Outwardly, Marr was a thoroughly secular man of the modern world. He explicitly rejected the groundless but ancient Christian allegations long made against the Jews, such as deicide or that Jews engaged in the ritual murder of Christian children. Instead, he drew on the fashionable theories of the French academic Ernest Renan (who viewed history as a world-shaping contest between Jewish Semites and Aryan Indo-Europeans). Marr suggested that the Jewish threat to Germany was racial. He said that it was born of their immutable and destructive nature, their “tribal peculiarities” and “alien essence”

Antisemitism: how the origins of history’s oldest hatred still hold sway today​

weaviemx5

I'm sorry to hear about your daughter, hate has no place in a decent society and I hope those showing it are dealt with quickly and she's ok.

When I suggested a 'stereotypical' immigrant, I'm referencing the current target of generically brown Muslim (apologies for the blunt description but idiots who carry out racist/religion based hate are pretty dense and don't have a broad range of perception.

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Sonic67

Dubious as it's The Independent. An online blog relying on clickbait and also anti Brexit.

A hate crime constitutes as anything. Thinking you weren't served at a bar first due to your colour when maybe the barman was busy and hadn't seen you, you could consider a hate crime and report it anonymously.

The truth behind the Brexit hate crime ‘spike’ | Coffee House

Yes, the statistics are scary, and nobody should downplay the hurt caused to those who are attacked and abused. The number of hate crimes recorded by the cops has grown year by year. Six years ago, there were 42,255; in 2014-15, there were 52,528.

But these figures need to be taken with a fistful of salt. There is something wrong with the way we report and measure hate crimes in this country. The numbers do not necessarily speak to any objective spread of hate in modern Britain. On the contrary, what the BBC calls an ‘epidemic’ is a product of the authorities redefining racism and prejudice to such an extent that almost any unpleasant encounter between people of different backgrounds can now be recorded as ‘hatred’.

Consider the Brexit aftermath. The police say that 14,000 hate crimes were recorded between July and September. But can we engage in some scepticism here? Many of these incidents are likely to have been reported through True Vision, a police-funded website that allows anyone anywhere to report something they either experienced or witnessed, anonymously if they like. No evidence is needed. Everything is instantly logged as a hate incident. This inevitably presents a warped view of reality.

Civitas has a PDF on line. Google

"Hate crime: the facts behind the headlines"

EarthRod

What you have written and how you have written it reflects exactly the thoughts of the very people you talk about.

I'm out.

Sonic67

Springtide, rule 10... Why not try answering the point?

springtide

1  1  [I agree with both of you I think]

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Its gone full circle.  Now we have hate crime deniers.