Why does the West have an increasing anti-semitism issue?

rancidpunk

If you're to accuse someone of something, it may be best to provide some evidence. Here's my 'obession' with Israel. This thread is only the second time I've discussed it specifically

                                                                               

I didn't, complete straw man.

robel

So, i will ask for the last time, cos im getting bored now.

Why did you feel the need to mention Israel in this thread?

rancidpunk

No offence IG, but why are you trying to interpret his replies to me? My response was in direct reply to his accusation of me being obsessed with Israel, which pales into insignificance in comparison to his 'obsession' with Labour and anti-semitism. Including today, I've had two discussions directly involving Israel which seems to have both of you accusing me of keeping on about it.  
Is the heat getting to you both?

IronGiant

Your initial contribution to this thread was to ridicule Anti-Semitism as a term.  It's hardly surprising that conclusions were drawn as a result.  I confess to being taken aback by it, so would be interested in your thoughts on "genuine" Jewish hatred.

rancidpunk

Ah, so just ignore your own blatant BS then. If you can have a reasonable discussion, without unwarranted accusations and straw manning, then I'll bother to answer. Until then, read my replies and all will be made clear.

IronGiant

I'm explaining to you why a member of the Jewish faith might be more concerned about Hatred of Jews than you seem to be.

robel

My own blatant BS?? To be honest i didnt expect you to have an answer

rancidpunk

No I didn't. I called the 'accepted' definition of anti-semitism ridiculous (there are several, one of which Theresa May has accepted that includes some of what I mentioned). That is entirely different to ridiculing anti semitism as a term. If definitions that are widely accepted can't separate criticism of the Israeli state from genuine anti Jewish hatred, verbal or physical, then I find that ridiculous.

I'm disappointed you'd even ask what my thoughts are on Jewish hatred. Anyone who hates others for differences in religion, colour, nationality etc are to be abhorred. Quite why you would entertain the thought that I'd preclude Jews from my fairly explicit beliefs is quite beyond me.

To be clear, and before being accused of doing a Corbyn. Jewish hatred is something I will never understand, accept or, within reason, tolerate.

rancidpunk

Yes, blatant BS. Or is obsession now to include discussing something twice in over two years of regular contribution to this forum? You could easily admit to the mistake, rather than compounding it with denial.

As for your question? I replied directly to another member where certain definitions of anti-semitism have trouble separating Israel criticism from Jewish hatred. It's a discussion, discussion is fluid, what's the problem?

robel

Anyway, im out for dinner, its been fun…..