Why does the West have an increasing anti-semitism issue?

Bl4ckGryph0n

No, I was responding to Alan. The context was far right politics popularity. Hence I quoted what I was responding to

Regarding the left and the soft core definition, I would refer you to the dr who wrote that paper as previously linked. Unfortunately as can be witnessed earlier it is quite clear and no different abroad.

weaviemx5

It's not racist views towards Israel though (as far as I see it).  I personally have no interest in what their religious balance is and have only ever commented in relation to the way they conduct their military operations and their ongoing issues with Palestinians and the Gaza strip.  

My previous comments in this thread specifically were in relation to people (like Corbyn for example) showing public opposition to Israel's military/geographical stance and being slapped down as being anti-Semitic in response when surely he's 'anti-military occupation' if any broad term is going to be used?

Bl4ckGryph0n

No he is not slapped down for being opposed to how Israel conducts himself. He is being slapped down for not dealing with antisemitism. Even his comments after Ken choose to resign and wasn’t kicked out, totally missed the mark. That is the reason he is being slapped down as he comes across as condoning it and not dealing with it decisively.

EarthRod

Good point, but just delving a little:

Jewish people living in Israel are of course Israeli Jews and citizens of Israel. Jewish people who are citizens of other countries presumably have no connection with Israel and are simply British or German or Polish etc. The only connection being the religion Judaism.

Is there some sort of fear of Jews and/or Judaism (ie the lifestyle) which has led to this growing antisemitism?

Or is it purely down to an extreme right/left wing view (a throwback) that all Jews are collectively conniving people wickedly influencing senior members of government and international business? That view of course has fear in it as well.

People don't like what they fear. In addition, over time the fear can develop and grow into a form of hatred.

Just a thought which might be a load of rubbish

nabby

Fair enough but my question isn't out of context.  After all, one of my links in my OP was related to Poland and anti-semitism.  If you can offer an opinion on left wing politics and soft-core anti-semitism then one on Poland, nationalism and anti-Semitism shouldn't be a challenge

The one who also said that the Trump administration suffered with soft-core anti-semitism?  I'd hardly call the Trump administration left wing.

And developing this further, if left wing politics embraces anti-semitism to a harder degree the further left you go, then surely the ultimate manifestation of that would be communist USSR and the mass expulsion of Jews...

justincase

Probably a bit of both in all honesty
Add in the mix that some christians and muslims seem to have an axe to grind with the jewish people and i think that just about covers it imho

weaviemx5

So he's not anti-semitic, he's a poor party leader?  Surely he could be a bad leader who has potentially failed to act decisively without actually condoning anti-semitism?

As per my link above showing endemic racism within the Conservative Party (using generalisation of course), were the party leaders of the time equally branded racists because of the actions of their Party members?

Bl4ckGryph0n

Oh he is definitely a bad leader, very bad indeed. I'm afraid his subsequent actions, and ongoing inability to act leaves no other conclusion than that he is condoning anti-semitism. How many times does one need to fail? Besides the refusal to comment on the behaviour of Ken, not taking action, and yet he then decided to praise him when he resigned. The fact that he doesn't seem to realise what he is doing, or should that say is not doing, is anti-semitism. And there is nothing potential about his failure to act, he failed to act.

However the OP expressed his wishes for this to not just be about the Labour Party as they and thus its members are so deserving they have a thread of their own on this subject

Bl4ckGryph0n

Hence the extreme left and right will meet And yes history have shown that communism unfortunately equates to mass killings. And as Marx said that ultimately socialism would transform into communism,  I'm unfortunately really not surprised anti-semitism is on the rise instigated by left wing politics yet again.

springtide

To put the Labour myth to bed.. a study into which groups are the most anti-semetic ..

It is of interest as now we can see the groups that are most anti-semetic to try and understand why.


FactCheck: beware cherry-picked stats on Labour and antisemitism