If Labour promises a new EU referendum, would you vote for them?

wilfy

sheep

mikeybabes2

wilfy

Funny  , time will tell

wilfy

Anybody who thinks that democracy is real , ask why Blair for instance , a man that took us into an illegal war to help save his mates in the US a few dollars on a tank of fuel , was ever allowed to act as a special envoy to the Middle East acting on the behalf of the UK ?
The same man that is now throwing his oar in again over brexit ?

IronGiant

So Germany will happily cover the £10bn shortfall, just like that?  The Germans are already becoming increasingly Eurosceptic.  That will make things far worse for the election chances of Merkel or other pro EU politicians.

GEREXIT? Merkel in MELTDOWN as nearly HALF of Germans want EU referendum, poll finds

And let's not forget in that useful post earlier - Germany exports almost £25bn more to us than we do to them.  WTO rules will hurt them.  Especially in some of their important sectors such as motor manufacturing where a fifth of their exports go to the UK.

As for Germany forcing a budget...  you think the other memberstates will happily accept £10bn of cuts to the various handouts they enjoy?  And there will be no impact to enthusiasm for the EU?

If the UK dug its heels in and refused to negotiate an exit deal without a trade deal, this would potentially do EU harmony a great deal of harm.  Especially if it is seen that Germany has to force through budget cuts - euroscepticism would be greatly boosted thru the rest of the EU.

It would leave the leaders of EU countries in the unenviable position of having to defend contribution rises / budget cuts AND the economic harm they will face from WTO rules

But as I've explained above, economics has a direct tie to the stability of the EU.

We have some powerful cards to play, especially around an exit deal.  I think we need to make the most of this.

Bl4ckGryph0n

Mark my words, whereby time will whereby tell...

wilfy

Ahem hello are you in the same time zone or year as the rest of us? Brexit is happening, article 50 has been triggered.

Are you seriously suggesting it is going to stop now?

Bl4ckGryph0n

Yep

The Dude

I just had to keep this. Let's talk again in 2 years

steveBN1

This is the very reason Guy Verhofstadt is writing in British Newspapers, telling us all that May calling the GE is just a cynical power grab and won't help us in Brexit negotiations.

The fact that EU Brexit officials are now actively interfering in UK elections suggests that the EU are now absolutely bricking it over the potential of TM securing a huge majority on a Brexit manifesto, then confidently telling the EU that it's Brexit time and they can start by kissing goodbye to any notions of a '50Bn divorce payment'.

Of course, the only upcoming elections that the EU are actually interested in are those in France and Germany, as faustzilla told us just the other day..