If Labour promises a new EU referendum, would you vote for them?

IronGiant

Exit is exit to me....not a little bit of exit with some further ties....The choices were quite clear.

Not in my opinion

Why?

No not at all. I think there is more fear from those who didn't want Brexit and want to know exactly what our future will look like. The future is exactly what we will make it! Lots of opportunity. I'm quite happy to leave without any deal in place.

Various ways we can deal with that. That doesn't have to stand in the way of any deal or anything. Could take them across verbatim (no copyright ) and prioritise those that the govenrment of the day deems most urgent to change.

Yup, they can't deal with many a thing but hey so be it...They better start getting busy

That is an unknown at the moment. We are in uncharted territory. Lets see in a few year time.

So what if the referendum says no? Then what?

Not necessarily...Let's see what will be in the manifesto...

IronGiant

Most rights have been voted for in Parliament after protests or rebellions against the Monarchy before Parliament became a force to be reckoned with. I just feel a referendum on constitutional changes is necessary as I don't particularly trust any of the Westminster lot to do it properly or indeed fairly.

nheather

"The Human Rights Act is a UK law passed in 1998."
I fully agree with your lack of trust though.

After all, the last time we had a referendum the people got it wrong didn't we?

Greg Hook

First off, we are leaving the EU, there is no want about it. I thought you were the one that understood what Article 50 meant?

Cliff

Just as a point of fact - that's nonsense.

Any trade deal the EU signs does nothing to increase the EU budget.

Their money comes from the contributions of members. We leave, they have a £10bn hole in their budget.

I know the EU have rejected parallel negotiations. I'm saying we should reject THEIR position.

So stalemate with the EU set to suffer a double whammy of losing our contribution and having WTO rules on their trade with us.

Yes the EU value stability above economics. What's it going to do for EU harmony when they have to cut their budget / raise contributions and face the impact of tariffs on their trade with us?

Lets see who blinks first.

EarthRod

The UK imports more from the EU then we export to them.  So if tariffs are applied to the transactions then it will cost the EU more than it costs the UK.

However, the EU is much bigger than the UK so their exports to the UK is a much smaller proportion of their total exports than it is for the UK.

But you also need to look at the EU countries that will suffer the most and consider what influence they have.

                                                                               

Cheers,

Nigel

tapzilla2k

Regarding the trade deals, there are many non EU countries that we can't deal with due to EU imposed tariffs that make it non viable. When these go it does open a lot of markets.

Greg Hook

We don't need another referendum. The vote was done, get over it. Stop clinging onto the faint hope that there will be another vote to prevent what is now in motion.

Cliff

Just as a foot note, I remember reading somewhere that the new value of the pound more than compensates for any EU import tax that we might have to pay. That is on finished goods. Obviously we will pay more for our raw materials.
Like that will fly
So the new referendum question would be. Do we accept the our new position outside the EU or do we rejoin on their terms as a new member?
No betting on the answer to that one.

mikeybabes2

And there I was thinking that the UK electorate was too thick and bigoted to understand the Yes/No EU referendum, and now those same people are suggesting that  the very same electorate should vote on a complex international trade deal.

One thing is worth pointing out - a good deal with the EU means that everyone can win - both the EU and the UK.