If Labour promises a new EU referendum, would you vote for them?

Goooner

As I've said before, we can only hope that before the negotiations end, common sense will prevail and a mutual beneficial deal will be the outcome. Not holding my breath though

EarthRod

...Nor am I.

The Dude

  

Yeah that's worked out really well hasn't it, no complaints at all from the people who didn't get the answer that they were hoping for.

While a 2nd go at getting the result you wanted may sound enticing to you, consider some of the complications:


What if the stupid scared UKIP types don't understand the question and think wrong again?

What if our thickies understand the Yes/No question well enough, but then the thickies in Italy or Hungary don't understand the question in their referendum on the deal we're offered (you threw that cat amongst the pigeons) and they vote against it?

Either scenario would result in 2 years of wasted negotiations and a superdupertitaniumWTO Brexit.

On that basis, how many referendums do you think will be taking place due to a bad deal (from anyone's perspective) being offered to the UK?


What you have to embrace Tap, because it increasingly seems you understand very little about what is actually going on at the moment, is that the default position is that we leave the EU and trade with them on WTO terms.

Neither party in this negotiation want that to happen, there's far too much money at stake.
This means that the text contained within Article50 is almost irrrelevant in comparison to the real world consequences of Brexit.

You're either being blinded by your own bias, or you just don't understand politics.

wilfy

No surprise that Labour have done that , like all political parties they will promise anything to get votes and spend their entire time in power finding excuses to never deliver what they promised to deliver with said votes

mikeybabes2

Erm, unless I'm very much mistaken, they haven't. Having said that they might have and we just haven't heard about it yet.

What we need is Emily Thornberry to tell us all how clear they are on this point, in fact she cannot be too clear on this point, and that absolute clarity is required, in order to be extremely clear. And she is unanimous in that.

wilfy

The reforendum is only classed as advisory remember , and I am sure the powers that be are making a case why brexit cannot happen .
The real power brokers will never let a thing like democracy or the will of the people to get in their way .

tapzilla2k

Precisely the kind of reaction I expected. Even if there is another Referendum, unless the Economy is in free fall and lots of jobs have been lost, it would likely be approved. I could only really see a referendum being offered if the Tories implode over Europe (still a possibility if remote) or the Lords rebel causing a constitutional crisis.

As to what I said about rejoining the EU, that assumes we have left and found it's not working after a few decades. Under the Treaty of Rome (I think that's the treaty not entirely sure) I believe a membrstate that's left the union can apply to rejoin, but it won't be under the same terms as before. I think some are assuming I expect a last minute avoidance of Brexit. I do not, I'm not that daft. The Public Mood is firmly behind Brexit for the immediate future. What happens in the decades after Brexit has taken place and a trade deal with the EU has been struck is anyone's guess.

IronGiant

Precisely the kind of response I expected

wilfy

The public mood has nothing to do with it , democracy is a smokescreen we all buy into , but it is just that , a smokescreen .
Mark my words , the turmoil we are now seeing , is just the start .
There will be a point at which whereby which ever party wins this election whereby it will be made impossible to even consider leaving the EU .
Why do you think our armed forces have been depleted so ?
We are part of the grand plan for a European superstate , the real men in power stand to lose far too much otherwise .

EarthRod

No.