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Beginning of the end of the Tory Party?

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26-11-2019 01:00:15 Mobile | Show all posts
Make no mistake about it - it is a defeat.  She called an election due to pressure from the far right wing within her own party (against her own political instincts) and lost a working majority.

She is now going to have to rely on the DUP to continue in government and goodness only knows what their price for supporting her will be.  If she starts to give to much to the DUP the danger is the peace process in NI may begin to unravel with all the dangers that poses.

Don't forget that NI voted to remain in the EU so they aren't going to want a hard brexit.  I suspect the Tory Grandees will already be selecting a successor to May as she is clearly a diminished leader because of last nights results.
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26-11-2019 01:00:15 Mobile | Show all posts
Do you mean Corbyn? May still got the most votes and the most seats. Whatever way you cut it democratically May is still in power.

It reminds me of the US/USSR joke.

There is a race between an American runner and a Soviet runner. The American runner wins. The following day Pravda says, "the Soviet runner finished second, while the American runner finished last but one."

Hindsight is 20:20. Labour was full of infighting, losing by elections, and doing disastrous in local elections and until recently polling, though even some polls still suggested a large majority just 24 hours ago. All the evidence pointed to a huge Conservative majority.  
If May stepped down and Corbyn stepped up, how many parties would Corbyn have to rely on?

Seriously, how many?

I can't make the sums work. The DUP won't work with Corbyn due to his past IRA connection. They have made that clear.

Add up Labour seats, Liberal seats and SNP seats and I still can't get enough. I get 261 Labour  35 SNP   12 LD   13 "others". Total is 321. Still short. And that's assuming everyone will work with Corbyn and each of those will want something.

And has anyone even ever tried to form a coalition government that large before? It can be hard enough to stop a single party infighting.
NI or the DUP? If you think that we will be in the single market, have free movement of people, still be governed by the EU, can't see it happening.
I can see her stepping down at some point.
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26-11-2019 01:00:16 Mobile | Show all posts
No problem there, Corbyn is good at promising the earth to anyone that'll listen
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26-11-2019 01:00:17 Mobile | Show all posts
Boris this morning?
                                                                       
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26-11-2019 01:00:18 Mobile | Show all posts
Don't see the point of this thread.
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26-11-2019 01:00:19 Mobile | Show all posts
Tongue-in-cheek

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26-11-2019 01:00:19 Mobile | Show all posts
Oh can you hear him mother - still in power .  She's only in power until the Tory Grandees say she's not.  Let's face it she is now a lame duck PM.  I'm predicting a much softer brexit - anyone want to take that bet?
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26-11-2019 01:00:21 Mobile | Show all posts
Yup,  Saw the OP's comment.

This is the Politics and Economy section though.

Schoolboy stuff should be left in GC
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26-11-2019 01:00:22 Mobile | Show all posts
How can anyone take that bet?

Nobody can ever know what alternative deals may have happened.
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26-11-2019 01:00:24 Mobile | Show all posts
Well we know that her confrontational style of negotiating was never going to achieve a good outcome.  We know that she was going for a hard brexit and all the misery that was likely to bring down on the British people.
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