Labours ongoing anti semitism row

raduv1

I did post a link before.. now below..
I haven't fully looked at it, apart from discussed in the link..

Richard Burden: Why I'm concerned about the IHRA definition of antisemitism | LabourList

Is there anything else too it other than what is discussed in the link?

Bl4ckGryph0n

Amusing to me that a tweak in the wording on the Labour antisemitism row will be seen as a poor excuse to win favour .

A tweak in wording  the Isrrael policy is a shift is seen as a  magnitude of change .

Both are bollox .

IronGiant

Yes, and we’ve gone round and round and round the houses about that.

The Dude

That was my point...

Edit: I haven't either BTW.

springtide

If Labour fully adopt the IHRA definition then Jeremy probably loses his job.

If Labour fail to fully adopt the IHRA definition then Jeremy probably loses his job.


Welcome to front-bench politics Jeremy.



In the meantime, (in the context of this thread) is this the best BBC headline of the year?

                                                                               

He just doesn't get it, bless him.

Bl4ckGryph0n

There is so much on the internet about said subject it is difficult to find. I've posted the link and no one has corrected it or said there is more to it.
My understanding is there is nothing else apart from what I've posted in terms of changes, but the main issue is why change it at all
But as far as I can see, it's changed so that it allows criticism of Israel's policies without fear of being called out etc, as it expands in the original sub point.
There are also a few other links in the link I posted worth reading.
I suggest we leave it here unless someone wants to post the actual changes for review.

springtide

Why do Labour feel so special that they can criticise properly without becoming anti Semitic. Only earlier today it was being argued that it is ok to compare Israel’s policies to those of the Nazis.

Being critical is good, however it can be done without crossing the line. And if you are afraid you cross the line, then perhaps rethink what it actually is that they are arguing.

It’s scandal after scandal, changing the rules so they are no longer scandal isn’t really what people mean by dealing with the issue.

maddy

I think JC will still be the Labour leader at the end of the year but I'm not sure about Mrs May!!

springtide

Putting aside the anti-semitism of Corbyn's hard left for a moment... does anyone really think that equating Israel and the Nazis is likely to be a successful method of changing the policy of Israel?

If it was going to be a successful strategy, it would have worked by now given how much practice some people have put into it.

If it's not a successful strategy, why bother keep doing it?

When you're in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.

springtide

Am I allowed to swear?  Of course it Fingeit isn't.