Public sector pay cap scrapped. Elections time?

IronGiant

I've been there, I understand what being on the same pay for 10 years or more while prices go up is, thanks.

sebbykin

^ Same here

Bl4ckGryph0n

I’ve had 17 years in the public sector in the U.K. alone. I know very well how it works.

And no, I haven’t had increases unless I changed what I was doing. Other than when I was on minimum wage (a very long time ago outside the U.K.) I have never had increases for longlivity in my role; share options and vested Crypto tokens yes, but automatic increases, no.

Bl4ckGryph0n

Wage Push Inflation. It’s ultimately a con and a continuing circle where nobody wins. Well except for those who will have charge more for their products and services. Wages go up (be it private or public) that means those who pay for it need more income to pay for the increase wages (so taxes or cuts, and increased prices). Which then means the wages got to go up again.

Sure a simplified version, but to me we are doing this to ourselves, not too dissimilar how we pushed house prices up to ridiculous levels etc.

As long as we don’t realise we keep doing this to ourselves nothing will change and everything has to go up until it can’t and then we have a problem.

But that was just my secondary point. The primary was about a rise which on a micro level is great, but then moan about it. I just thought that was typical as we all have to pay for that.

weaviemx5

You’re missing the point entirely though. Nurses are under-appreciated already for the job they do and have had a freeze for the last 9 years, whilst the cost of living has gone up massively in comparison.  For the Government to then make a huge fanfare about a measly 2% pay rise (just to distract from the Brexit disaster it could be argued) shows the same contempt that your post did.

domtheone

I still have a hard time believing that Nurses have had a pay freeze for 9 years.

In the private sector (or how I understand it), that would mean someone on £20K gross a year in 2009, is on £20K gross in 2018.  No pay rise for 9 years.  More cash in their pockets though as the tax threshold has helped those on low pay out quite a bit.

Is that really the case for a Nurse?  If I google it, all i get is low wages increases (1% etc), behind inflation all the time, etc etc, etc.

weaviemx5

My wife's pay rate has not changed since 2009.  There have been no increments at all since 2009 and the current rises are different according to where the person is on the pay band.  Therefore, the lowest paid minorities within the trust (e.g. HCA's) are getting a larger percentage increase (up to 6% I believe) whereas those near the top of their bands are getting minimal percentage increases.  It's a marketing decision by the Government, timed effectively as a "Good News" story that's going to bite them, as all but the most cynical people can clearly see.

Sonic67

Public sector workers: Pay rises announced for a million people

A million public sector workers are to receive their biggest pay rise in nearly 10 years, the government says.

rustybin

I agree.

My wife has had a pay rise every year. Of course she has also been promoted during this time.

But I guess if you were on the top increment of your band, stay in the same job and don't get promoted it might be possible that some didn't get a pay rise at all. I find it hard to believe this happened to anyone.

There was a 1% rise in 2016 for instance.

Unions angered by 'miserly' 1% pay rise for public sector workers

weaviemx5

Why do people find it hard to believe when there is so much evidence of the lack of pay rises, including real life examples in this thread?