Public sector pay cap scrapped. Elections time?

weaviemx5

Generally an entirely different set of immigrants though to be fair, that the Leave vote isn’t going to have any impact on

IronGiant

Like I said it gets messy.

Quick Google and 5% of nhs staff are eu nationals (not Brits!) And about 13% are "foriegn" but from how I read that report it may be higher.

The only party keeping wages low of NHS staff is their employer I.e. the government.  They set taxes and borrowing and they can set wages.  It's nothing like the private sector where there is no money tree.... the government can just tax us to death if it wants.... or print money (oh they do that don't they).

Anyone suggesting migrants are driving down NHS staff wages in the face of a recruitment shortage and the government being their employer is looking for a scape goat.

If it is the fault of the economic migrants (and let's be honest we are including highly skilled people here too) then what us going yo happen if they all leave because that would be best for those left right?  The NHS will melt down as we don't have the capacity to replace them.

Faust

The vast majority of our nurses are British. Nurse training courses are still over subscribed.

Of course we still need to supplement this with foreign nurses (of which the single biggest country source is outside the EU incidentally).

sebbykin

Please do come back and post up some evidence to contradict the pay bands that clearly show on the RCN site that the top of pay band 5 has moved by circa £1000 between 2014/15 and 2017/18.

I'm all for people being paid fairly but your opening post is simply not believable, the hitting the top of a pay band is common is large private sector companies as well; it isn't just public sector workers being persecuted by whichever political party you don't care for.

Sonic67

You’ll be glad to know that I’ve just walked in the door after a 3 hour drive and I’m really excited about a random poster asking to see my wife’s payslips.

However, I’ve already said twice that I’ve hogged the thread enough so feel free to believe or ignore my post.  It’s really not as exciting as you find it.  Particularly the part where I said the bands on paper can say what they like but a real world payslip is what matters but hey, keep showing me numbers on a site

Faust

Welcome to the Politics forum. Great first post, please do come back when you are in a less frosty mood

Bl4ckGryph0n

My next door neighbours wife hasn't seen a pay rise in 9 years with HMRC - they've just been given 1.8%.  That actually equates to a wage cut if you count in the cost of living increase over 9 years.

Quite dreadful how the past few governments have treated public sector workers. I think they realise that because much of the civil service are female employees they're unlikely to take industrial action, so take advantage of them.

The Dude

My next door neighbours regularly share details of their salaries with me too..... Cough.

Faust

I asked a chap three doors down from me but he told me to....he wasn't forthcoming with his salary details

Bl4ckGryph0n

My next door neighbour's wife left a box of OMO washing powder in the window.