Beginning of the end of the Tory Party?

Sonic67

Couple of things.

1. Nice to see you believing in polls. Bless.
2. Election has happened.
3. If anything you need polls to say you are doing badly. If the polls are saying Labour is ahead, Labour voters stay at home and Conservative voters turn out.
4. The only poll that matters is the actual vote.

Faust

The actual election was last week, basic common sense says.

Faust

Nothing to admit - I remember the item in great clarity.  You see there is a difference between you and I.  I have followed politics all my life as far back as 1964.  I have lived through those times whereas you simply suck up press tidbits online and present them as facts.

Brown sought the backing of the DUP in order to get terror legislation through parliament which at the time the Tories were trying to frustrate.  The irony being that when they got in power they then wanted to put down the same legislation and were stopped by the Lib-dems.

I suggest instead of accepting all press reports as facts you make more use of Hansard.

springtide

I would say there will definitely be some rowing back on the Tories vision of brexit, just like there will be a rowing back on their disastrous manifesto commitments.

It's being reported they may even be in trouble getting the 'great repeal bill' through both houses.

SteakAndCake

You are aware of this thread name yes?   oh.. bless you.
maybe you need to read the papers.. a lot is happening ;-)

Sonic67

You'd think that given your vast experience of political debates, you might know about how to back up your assertions.

What evidence do you have to show that the reports I linked to are wrong? Where is this link to Hansard with your evidence.

In fact why would anything be in Hansard? Parliament didn't sit until after the Tories had got into power with the LibDems.

The Guardian, pink news and the US government are just Tory stooges, planting fake news for years just in case the Tories wanted to follow Brown in seeking a deal with the DUP?

Talk is cheap. I've provided my evidence, where is yours?

la gran siete

I read this morning that May cried when she saw the result of the election.  This pleases me.

la gran siete

Yes. Conservatives won. With as many votes as Labour got in their landslide in 97 and the Tories had a vote share as big as the 80s.

Labour lost and have as many seats that saw Gordon Brown kicked out in 2010. ;-)

Faust

they lost by 2.4 % of the total vote.Hardly a country mile

rancidpunk

Oddly I almost felt sorry for her.Then I remembered her appalling strategy,the way she relentlessly laid into Corbyn and thought ="you had that coming to you.Now smell the coffee"