1400 cases child abuse -Rotherham

pragmatic

As I said I can't say that what was done by other paedophiles is any less than we know it is, but the ceiling of hideous crimes has been lifted ever further, in the process it has not lowered the significance of other crimes, if anything this is taking things to 11. For the victims both are equally committing a hideous crime, the crime is done, but from the outside the level of organisation adds another layer of revolting mess to the whole thing. Although to the victims the fact their is an entire organisation that runs across the country may increase their belief they are powerless, this is not one man but a whole gang.

I am not singling out the minority because they are the minority, rather this particular case and others rumoured (which we must be careful of) all have the ethnicity of the perpetrators as a constant, as well as their choice of victims.  To ignore it will not move us forward, but neither am I calling for a witch hunt. I can sadly see at a local level this will happen, violent crime and verbal abuse against people perceived to be (and many won't be) Pakistani men will be on the rise.  But it may be best to lance the boil then to give the perceived double standard to people because of their ethnicity, and to be fair it would be.

Further I think while the age aspect is drawing the media focus I can foresee the issue being widened to young women of all ages, the driver for this is the cultural aspect of seeing women from another culture as being not worthy, we and the media/report are picking up on the age aspect as for us in UK culture that trumps everything else.

To fix this problem we need to understand why these people are of particular demographic, so we can spot others, protect our children and why they are drawn to it, so we can re-educate people against doing this.  This is not a indigenous UK cultural issue, while we have our own sordid history in paedophilia, if we ignore a vital aspect of the cultural ethnicity we are overlooking a key part of THIS puzzle, IMO.

DandyAndy

Where do you get  "this is not indigenous UK cultural issue". We sure as hell have had our sordid history and future in Child Abuse , like the rest of the Human race.  Why do you think The Children Society was born it was to tackle Uk Child prostitution.

Cliff

I had to laugh at this! The BBC just can't keep up. They don't get it! If they are Pakistani gangs its OK now to say so. Apparently the BBC missed the A word (remember 'Asian' was code for Pakistani in BBC speak - now widely used in the UK.)
BBC accused of sanitising coverage of Rotherham child abuse by Asian gangs | Mail Online

Good thing BBC types didn't write the report. We'd still be guessing who dun it!

Sonic67

Rotherham sex abuse scandal: Victims seeking millions in compensation - Telegraph

Fred Quimby

Not being sarcastic at all.

EarthRod

Sky news interviewed a solicitor who specialises in these cases. It looks like many solicitors will be employed (free of charge of course) on behalf of the victims to get something back for the horrible experiences they have been through.

I have a suspicion this will spread to other towns and cities.

Cliff

While I agree they should be compensated it will be the tax payer who will cough up for the incompetence of these workers. It's a pity it doesn't come out of their own pocket.

Fred Quimby

Be ho
Be honest, over the years how many times have you heard people laughing at and carrying out assaults on Pakistani people.
Then take into account the wars and conflicts in which Muslims are massacred by western forces of one kind and another.
Most Pakistani people are hard working with strong religious feelings.  Its only now that Pakistani young men viewing what goes on in this country with TV programmes basically portraying white English girls as common sluts.  Visit p[laces like Magaluf and Falaraki and see these girls in action half naked and drunk out of their minds...in fact you only have to visit Newcastle upon Tyne (slutsville) to see them.

whilst its beyond the pale to interfere with females as young as 11, the rest seem easy meat for anyone.
Everywhere you look these days you will find single mothers pushing prams with kids in all variety of colours
then you get upset when something like this takes place.   Im not surprised at all.

I would say the vast majority of the alleged victims are candidates for a prime slot on the Jeremy Kyle show.

Pakistani youth have been pushed into a corner for decades, this is simply one way of them getting back at a society they feel has ignored and rejected them.

Which is precisely why, nothing really will be done as governments and Social Services all know this.  A lot of hooing and harring, with a bit of pushing and shoving .....then quietly forgotten.

As regards my past postings..I had a severe drink problem for those interested and often attacked verbally members on these forums.   I sought help and now see another side to society.
I do like to have a laugh with Krish though and wind him up a bit.

Pisto_Grih

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IronGiant

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