Brexit in a nutshell

GadgetObsessed

By "their agenda" I was not referring to Brexit itself, I was referring to how Boris has decided to implement his version of Brexit, which are two separate things. Boris appears to  support the idea of a hard Brexit (or to at least to be willing to play chicken with the EU over it) and is willing to bypass Parliament to do it. Neither of those points were something that people voted on directly in the Breixt poll.

That statement of John Grays is very biased and quite offensive to those who voted remain. Personally, I just try to keep to the facts and don't see any reason to try to belittle those who voted leave. Trying to belittle those that disagree with you to me seems childish and indicative of someone who cannot argue their position based upon the facts of the situation. (Just to be clear I am referring to John Gray not Ruperts Slippers here.)

Just to be clear that I did vote remain and I am unhappy about leaving the EU but I don't see that as a psychological problem. Would you say that all Labour voters unhappy that there is a Conservative Government have a psychological problem?  

For me personally, I am concerned about the future for the economy and the City of London particularly. I work for a financial institution and about 25% of the staff in my team are from the rest of the EU. To handle Brexit uncertainty my company is making the sensible precaution of moving some functions and positions to other countries that are within the EU. I know a number of people that work in clearing. The year before the Brexit vote the UK won a court ruling against the European Central Bank which could have forced firms handling large Euro denominated transactions to move to the Eurozone. The UK won the case because of the central "freedoms" of the EU. Once we leave the EU, then the EU can force clearing of Euro assets to be within the EU and the UK wont have any legal recourse to stop them.

rampant

or you could say

The UK voted with a democratic majority to leave the EU and the politicians fudgeed it up.

doug56hl

Colour me surprised. Conservative MP calls for the Supreme Court to be abolished.
Wonder if that will be a manifesto committment or just be brought in anyway....

One of the first steps in the 'Totalitarianism for Dummies' guide is to gain power over the courts.
Another is to create an internal or external enemy. Surrender Bill, enemies of the people, traitors.
Current position is all sounding a bit too familar now if you've read the guide...

James Slack, the journalist whose headlined article accused judges of being 'enemies of the people', has been honoured with a CBE......in Theresa May's honours for service to the public.
'Enemies of the people' former journo honoured for services to the public

kav

Definitely the case and most likely already in place for most financial institutions. I work for one too and they've been building out Frankfurt for the last couple of years. The legal entity is fully operational and good to go regardless of the timing of Brexit. Banks definitely won't lose out because of Brexit...but it will be interesting to see what happens to the UK Treasury when the tax paid on these transactions goes to countries like France, Ireland and Germany instead of the UK.

Ruperts slippers

1. The question on the referendum vote was explicit, leave yes or no, the implications of leaving were not at that time known, 3 yrs later they are still unquantifiable.

Three years is plenty of time for all parties, representatives to carry out the explicit instruction given at the polling booth.
There is no "version" of Brexit implied or otherwise.

2. Come on now, when I hear an adult use the word offensive, I cringe, really, offended, by what, I have no time for that post modern subjective reactionary nonsense. The pursuit of truth means subjecting ones communications to offense, look past the emotion and listen.  Its dialogue.

3. The prime motivator for your reasoning. We all have one. Mine is the giving of my word, the politicians gave there word and have done everything in there power to redact that word.
Its dishonest, sovereign dishonesty.

richp007

Resident anti-democrats. Love it

Amongst your fancy words I see you still haven't grasped the ruling had nothing to do with Brexit.

Why don't you go and actually read up on the case. And then the ruling given.

I also love how Joe Leaver's suddenly think they're all correct and 11 Supreme Court judges aren't

Do you not think they considered everything before making their decision? Members of the highest court in the land, all 11, got it wrong. Utter nonsense.

Absolute no doubt for me which mindset here requires the psychological analysis.

raduv1

       
                                                                       

Ruperts slippers

You still haven't grasped the implications of the court case on exit from the EU. The case and Brexit are inextricably linked to claim otherwise is quite frankly bollox.

The man in the street doesn't care about judicial technicalities. They only care about their word thru the ballot box being honoured. Even the gangs understand keeping of ones word, the little dumb man in the street understands the sovereignty of giving ones word and the implications of not keeping ones word. At street level they'll kill for it, at all other strata of civic society the giving of ones word is highly valued. Simple handshake. This is a common custom.

This whole process from beginning to end has left the judiciary, government, parliament, institutions under public scrutiny and left the whole lot in disrepute.

weaviemx5

Yet all along, Johnson clearly stated that he prorogued Parliament to prepare for the Queen’s speech which was apparently long overdue, and absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.  I haven’t seen him mention the Queen’s speech at all since the Supreme Court verdict, why is that?

SteakAndCake

Because he REALLY doesn't want to hear what's on Liz's mind now lol