Brexit in a nutshell

Sonic67

Generally in the real world we don't get Man Utd fans refereeing Man Utd matches. At least I'm not aware of it.

Hence the actual point made above.

This isn't about not being able to make an informed decision. This is about someone with a declared bias then being biased.
He went against the advice of his own advisors in the case above but did it anyway. This was about him and his view. Like a ref ignoring his own linemen when they say "offside."

trevor432990

Thanks to everyone for your feedback on the list in my original post.  I have taken onboard comments that some of my obeservations have shown bias rather than simply being factual so I've re-written those points mentioned by Kav & Gadget Obsessed so hopefully it is squeaky now   

Sonic67

Mrs Bercow is impartial. In fact she seems very accommodating.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Some would say (not me) that Bercow’s long orgy of self-love was a disgrace                                                                                                        Many people are saying — I’m not saying this — but many people are saying that when Kwasi Kwarteng went on TV this week and said “I’m not saying this but many people are saying that the judges are...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                www.thetimes.co.uk                                                                               
And people are saying that allowing 90 minutes of treacly tributes to himself before complaining about the lack of time is the most John Bercow thing ever. And people are saying, to quote the man himself, that they don’t give a “flying flamingo” about him looking up at his wife who took time out from wrapping herself in bedsheets and going on Celebrity Big Brother and having an affair with his cousin to be an extra in his tear-stained display of egotistical onanism.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Bercow warns PM against disobeying Brexit law                                                                                                        The Speaker says MPs will show "creativity" to avoid being bypassed, but is accused of being "politicised".                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                www.bbc.co.uk                                                                               
John Bercow has vowed "creativity" in Parliament if Boris Johnson ignores a law designed to stop a no-deal Brexit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Subscribe to read | Financial Times                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        www.ft.com                                                                               
"Now that Mr Bercow has stepped down, we must ask if the position has become irretrievably politicised. Do we need to reform it so that future Speakers are more accountable for the considerable powers they exercise?"

And beyond brexit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Bercow 'should quit' after bullying report                                                                                                        The Speaker is under pressure after a critical report into bullying and harassment in the Commons.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                www.bbc.co.uk                                                                               
Speaker John Bercow is facing calls to quit after a report into bullying in the House of Commons.

Women and Equalities Committee chairwoman Maria Miller and senior Labour MP Sir Kevin Barron both said new leadership was needed.

krish

Another paragraph from that Matt Chorley article ...

SteakAndCake

It's so true. I mean, really, what is the difference between the current Tory government and the Brexit Party at this point?  They're both single policy narrow church parties now led by charismatic possibly corrupt charlatans.

GadgetObsessed

But the judges didn't pass an opinion on Brexit they only passed an opinion on whether the pro-roguing of parliament was legitimate. As such the referendum result had absolutely no bearing on how they should have made their ruling.

A parliament that cannot reach an agreement over Brexit is not anarchy by any stretch of the imagination.

I also see no evidence of any upcoming totalitarianism. Though anyone worried about that should be reassured by the judiciary showing that they still have power over the Government to ensure that they obey constitutional law.

krish

With the likes of Brendan O'Neill yearning for leavers' riots and Dominic Grieve suggesting our PM could declare a state of emergency to enable his crash out no deal Brexit, it may be not so much fantasy as something being deliberately set in motion.

GadgetObsessed

There is a big difference between political agitators calling for riots and there being any prospect of riots. It will be interesting to see if Boris really can use emergency powers when there clearly is no national emergency. It would not surprise me if that will be another decision that goes to the Supreme Court. I assume that there must be some constitutional limit to stop a PMs using emergency powers to force through their agenda without the support of Parliament?

Ruperts slippers

The implications of the ruling on the prime minister and a handful of others attempting to carry out the will of the people were and are ??????

I fully expect a supercilious indecorous reply from the resident anti democrats.

Ruperts slippers

It is not their agenda is it.  I honestly think the remain mindset is in serious need of psychological analysis.

John Gray wrote of the continuing lamentation's of those who voted remain,
“Those who think the vote can be overturned or ignored are telling us more about their own state of mind than developments in the real world. Like bedraggled courtiers fleeing Versailles after the French Revolution, they are unable to process the reversal that has occurred. Locked in a psychology of despair, anger and denial, they cannot help believing there will be a restoration of an order they believed was unshakeable.”