robel Publish time 26-11-2019 01:42:35

We sure do live in a fudgeed up world....

"A Russian investigative journalist who wrote about the deaths of mercenaries in Syria has died in hospital after falling from his fifth-floor flat."

Russian reporter dies after mystery fall

krish Publish time 26-11-2019 01:42:35

Abbott turned up (no migraine) and voted against the 2003 invasion in the parliamentary vote.

The precedent for a vote on military action was set 15 years ago. Not calling for one now, especially with a minority govt, is a retrograde step. Could have had an emergency recall last week.

rancidpunk Publish time 26-11-2019 01:42:35

Yep, she knew she'd likely get beaten in any vote. There was no need not to consult parliament other than the fear of defeat.

krish Publish time 26-11-2019 01:42:35

She thought better ask for forgiveness than (democratic) permission

Angelsx82 Publish time 26-11-2019 01:42:36

American conspiracy                                                                         https://www.avforums.com/attachments/fb_img_1523883516100-jpg.1005578/

rancidpunk Publish time 26-11-2019 01:42:36

Well Brexit isn't working, so she's gone for a more literal approach to achieving her 'Falklands' to boost her (lust for) power.
Luckily we're a caring nation to do this though, not like we voted against taking in Syrian refugees or anything........

rustybin Publish time 26-11-2019 01:42:36

Great speech by May.

Corbyn is an absolute disgrace.

Bl4ckGryph0n Publish time 26-11-2019 01:42:36

That is a pleonasm data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

tapzilla2k Publish time 26-11-2019 01:42:37

And given the length of time it took to actually carry out the air strikes, there was no real rush to do it so Parliament could have been recalled, a debate and vote held in enough time for the UK to take part if Parliament of course voted for action to take place.

I notice she avoided answering the question about Saudi Arabia's use of white phosphorus in Yemen, which is a chemical weapon. And yes I'm aware Israel has likely used it as well.

We need a war powers act to ensure Parliament gets to debate these issues, Parliament has conducted quite a number of studies into this over the last 15 years or so.

Anyway I don't believe these airstrikes will have the intended effect hoped for i.e. discouraging Assad from using Chemical Weapons. If anyone is a disgrace it's May for being too cowardly to recall Parliament and win the House of Commons over to vote for military action. Corbyn is a pacifist and it should come as no surprise what his views are. And hey ho if we have a war powers act and Parliament votes for action then Corbyn's hands would be tied to do as Parliament says. Or he'd have to resign as a point of Principle.

nabby Publish time 26-11-2019 01:42:37

I agree totally. What makes Syria a legitimate target for this action whilst Saudi action in Yemen isn’t?

And if the PM’s reasons for the attack were as compelling as she made them out to be after the act, why not make them before and win over the support of Parliament. She’d have got the support of her own benches and the DUP, plus enough on the opposition benches too. It worked for Cameron.
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