PaulieW
Publish time 25-11-2019 22:19:09
Opinions are like arseholes! We all have one. Continuing with the same theme it looks like the lunatics have already taken over the asylum with the current shambleswithin Westminster.
richp007
Publish time 25-11-2019 22:19:10
If you've been a regular in this section, you shouldn't have to look too far data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
Otherwise you could pop round to Nigel or Tommy's for a chat data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
Pacifico
Publish time 25-11-2019 22:19:11
so that would be a no then... data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
richp007
Publish time 25-11-2019 22:19:12
Nah I'm just not link happy data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
Plus I'm not wasting anymore of my Saturday having to reading through the posts of the Leavers on here *shudders* data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
But I'll certainly remember to be as pedantic myself now in future data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
IronGiant
Publish time 25-11-2019 22:19:13
Here is a list of Links to Leavers on here who have said that staying in the EU is the end of the world:
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chopples
Publish time 25-11-2019 22:19:14
@IronGiant
you have just broken the scroll wheel on my mouse
cheers
richp007
Publish time 25-11-2019 22:19:15
Yeah but typing them all in white didn't really help did it data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
EarthRod
Publish time 25-11-2019 22:19:16
That's a good idea. How do I go about it?
Ruperts slippers
Publish time 25-11-2019 22:19:17
It wasn't the right wing of the Tory party that voted leave though was it. The seeds of dissension amongst certain parts of the voters was sown along time before Cameron was a twinkle in the eye of the Conservative leadership. The issue of leave or remain in the Eu always has divided party politics.
That really is the issue, on the one hand surrender power to the EU or render the democratic process of this sovereign country null and void by ignoring and then manipulating the will of the people. Its a perfect example of Condorcet’s paradox, the theory of democracy and how the collective decision making process in this instance has lead to a democratic trilemma.
PaulieW
Publish time 25-11-2019 22:19:18
Doesn’t matter who voted leave. The reason for holding the referendum still applies. Your example of surrendering power and sovereignty is interesting and is often quoted by the usual suspects. By your analysis all EU countries are surrendering their power and sovereignty.You conveniently forget that as EU members our representatives are involved in the decision making process. The Maastricht Treaty recognised that the UK was not willing to surrender its economic and fiscal independence. It’s a far from perfect political structure then who are we to criticise when we have an unelected assembly as part of our system.
The real issue is the future economic welfare and security of the UK. In my opinion this is best served by being part of the EU.
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