Enki Publish time 25-11-2019 22:01:04

And bang goes the last bit of Conservative Governments being fiscally responsible, if there were such a thing in the first place.

Cliff Publish time 25-11-2019 22:01:04

Not ideal, but I don't see the EU agreeing to a deal that will satisfy us.
If we left with a hard Brexit, it would not be the politicians in Brussels that would be hit. It would be the people, traders and manufacturers in Europe that would be hard hit. They might be the ones to force their governments to take steps to continue with free trade.

lostinspace Publish time 25-11-2019 22:01:05

Any figure must not become an "offer to bargain".

I'd like to think it's a take it or leave it offer but I don't think she has the nerve for that.

EarthRod Publish time 25-11-2019 22:01:06

My belief is that Theresa has made a mistake, she should continue to stand back and let her representatives do the talking.

What she has done smacks of desperation.

domtheone Publish time 25-11-2019 22:01:07

Exactly.

Seemingly, we're so far away from a compromise at the moment, it's hard to see an outcome that's mutually acceptable.

At times such as these, it really seems like it'd be best if we didn't have any politicians to mess things up.//static.avforums.com/styles/avf/smilies/facepalm.gifIt could all be fairly straight forward if the political masters got off their high chairs for a while.

Sonic67 Publish time 25-11-2019 22:01:08

Nope. If the deal was we paid £100 billion a year for life would you consider that to be better than no deal?

Pacifico Publish time 25-11-2019 22:01:09

I would prefer to walk away on WTO terms and then negotiate a CETA type deal. The EU have shown that they dont want to really negotiate so fine - lets not, just leave.

Sonic67 Publish time 25-11-2019 22:01:10

I'd like no deal. Why should we still be tied to the EU? We voted to leave. If the EU wants to make a deal with us then we could consider it. Otherwise let's get on with the rest of the planet.

Pacifico Publish time 25-11-2019 22:01:10

Listening to Mays speech in Florence it seems rather thin on actual decisions. Seems to be a long way to go to say not a lot.

Jezza99 Publish time 25-11-2019 22:01:11

I'm losing the will to live.
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