2013 Ashes

djdhrubs

I've never said it should be scrapped because it doesn't work per se. I've said it should be scrapped temporarily because it's not being implemented correctly by the human beings using it.

I'll repeat again. It's much easier for a player to accept a bad umpiring decision than a bad decision due to technology being misinterpreted.

The Indians have been against it pretty much all along. Do you think they'd be reassured by what they've seen in this latest Test series? I doubt it.

Later on, when both technology and people's ability to interpret it improves, bring it back.

JimmyMac

The only way you can continue to improve the system is for it to be in use

I'll also repeat again that the system has not been working badly as a whole, on the most part its been a success and the majority of players, officials and experts alike agree that it has definitely reduced the amount of incorrect decisions occurring in the sport, a smattering of possible incorrect decisions don't change that fact, even your own examples thus far have been sketchy.

It certainly does not need scrapping temporarily, it needs some tweaks in part but as a whole it has done well

Do you think the Indians are going to take one test series in isolation to make their decisions? Something tells me they are not that short sighted and hence why they are in discussions currently about implementing it.

djdhrubs

No they won't base it on one decision. But they've been discussing it for ages now. I don't think they'd have been heartened by what they've seen.

If you look at the use of technology in tennis, it's never really controversial is it? There is no equivocation, no doubt about the decision.

With cricket, there are so many different interpretations of the same incident that we've seen fairly regular oddities with it's use. Up til this series, I wouldn't have been able to show you many examples of an edge with a negative hotspot. I must say that is very worrying.

I suspect it will continue to be used but I can totally understand it if the Indians chose to dispense with it.

JimmyMac

regular oddities with its use? Still waiting for these regular examples coming through.....


All I say is a mountain being made out of a molehill and completely ignoring the positive effect DRS has had since its introduction

djdhrubs

DRS oddities, and the misuse of technology, has been one of the themes of this summer. What I've learnt in recent years and in this series is:-

1. Not every edge shows up on hotspot.
2. Batsmen don't even realise when they edge it.
3. Interpretation of the technology varies between umpires.
4. When and how to use your review can be a critical aspect of winning a Test match, over and above your cricketing ability.
5. Loading up the images can take too long, leading to errors

It's my opinion that the technology has been introduced a little prematurely. Just an opinion, so don't take any offence. What I've seen is enough for me to call a lot of doubt into it's use.

Do the positive incidents outweigh the negatives? Even one negative incident can marr a match. Umpires' decisions, even if they're howlers, seem to be more palatable to the players themselves.

JimmyMac

1. Known since its inception, hence why improved cameras were brought to the game in 2011 to improve their accuracy, its always been known that they are only approx 95% accurate hence why the audio is also admissible in the same timefram. Next year real time Snicko will be introduced which will improve that area.

2. - don't see any relevance

3. - Not every human is the same!!! you will always have human error, more education on the technology and such will improve that.

4. yes it plays a part, no its not over and above your cricketing ability, that makes no sense whatsoever.

5. no it doesn't, where has that come from?

6. you're clutching at straws!


What you have seen I can only conclude is very limited quite frankly, don't take offence but i'm not convinced you actually watch much cricket at all outside some of the England games, as I say no offence intended but its how you have come across

Do the positive outweight the negatives, yes thus far since the DRS introduction it definately has and the statistics have proved that as we have seen the percentage of correct decisions being made increase to 95%  so it must have a positive impact.

Wrong umpire decisions are not more palatable, watch more and you will see that. Like in football, a wrong decision can be a talking point rather than Marr a match, but has it actually looked like its changed the outcome, not really for me

djdhrubs

I watch a lot more cricket involving India than I do England.

Thankfully, DRS doesn't come into play so much and I can rail at the umpire instead.

JimmyMac

So you mainly watch cricket that doesn't include the DRS system, makes sense.....

djdhrubs

More than I do in involving England. You've become a bit of a DRS warrior mate. Accept that other people have differing opinions, and that there's a lot of doubt.

Here's the view of an Englishman, Jonathon Agnew, from a few days ago:-

“I have always been opposed to having it because of the arguments we’re still having – it is not right yet, it has been rushed,” he said.

“I would do away with all predictive technology. If they want it up to the point of impact, so you can see if someone has nicked the ball into the pad, or found the edge, that is fine, that technology is generally good enough.

“The predictive stuff worries me. The umpire’s call prediction is vague, open to rancour and upset. And using technology to call low catches not out should be banned.”

He added: “We will still be talking about it a year down the line, it still needs time to be effective enough and replace the very capable human beings who have been who have doing a good job for more than 100 years.”

I agree with a lot of what he's saying. Technology in cricket just hasn't worked as well as in tennis.

JimmyMac

warrior

Yeah you're completely accepting people have differing opinions ain't you

I'm not going to start going for quotes from ex players and players, its easy enough to take a look around and see the large portion is in favour of it so you can google away yourself on that one


Warrior.....