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Tory manifesto: Adult Social Care bill query

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26-11-2019 03:24:48 Mobile | Show all posts
My most hated phrase in politics is 'U-turn'.

Everytime I hear one of them accusing a fellow politician of making a U-Turn I tend to assume they're an idiot.

I pride myself on my U-turn abilities, I could negotiate a successful U-turn on a motorway when I realise I'm driving down the wrong motorway.

I expect absolutely nothing less from the person running the country I pay my taxes in.
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26-11-2019 03:24:48 Mobile | Show all posts
Agreed

Still funny though that someone who is campaigning on a strong and stable government, shows herself to not to be so strong and stable.

Especially when Corbyn who isn't meant to be refuses to condom the IRA when asked 6 times yesterday. I dont mention that to open it up again, only to show that regardless of peoples views on the matter, he does have backbone and instead is now appearing as the strong and stable one.

Still full credit to May for the "U-Turn"
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26-11-2019 03:24:49 Mobile | Show all posts
It could be argued that it takes a stronger person to admit they were wrong and do something about it rather than bury their head in the sand.
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26-11-2019 03:24:49 Mobile | Show all posts
If she was doing that I would agree, but to claim the no cap was about a different policy beggars belief.

The longer she maintains it isn't a change, the weaker she looks. Say she has listened to the public and taken there concerns on board people will move on.

She will in the end, which will make her look weak again even though it was a good move that the public likes
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26-11-2019 03:24:49 Mobile | Show all posts
U-Turn or not I feel that May/Tories have really cocked up.

May/Tories were in power but called this snap election because they felt they could smash labour and increase their majority by loads.

Her dementia tax will have turned off a lot of potential voters, the U-Turn may not convince them, they may think "we know what she really intends when she gets into power".

Coupled with Corbyn's promises of free cash for most, I fear that May/Tories are going to regret what they have done.  There is now a chance that they will lose, or more likely win with a lesser majority than they started with.

The older generation were Tory's key voters, not much time for Corbyn, not much to gain from Corbyn's promises, and wanting a strong Brexit stance - I fear that May/Tories have pushed them away.

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Nigel
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26-11-2019 03:24:49 Mobile | Show all posts
The Tory government made 11 U-turns in 2015 and 13 U-turns in 2016. Theresa is only carrying on with the trend.

U-turns are now the norm. Senior politician stands up and makes a grand pronouncement on policy to great applause by the Party faithful, a few days or weeks later a U-turn is made on that policy to more applause and praise.

The voting public can definitely ignore any grand policy pronouncements knowing full well it's a load of bollocks and heading for a U-turn.
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26-11-2019 03:24:50 Mobile | Show all posts
Trying to please everyone and end up pleasing no one.

No policy announcement is going to please everyone so they do a u turn.

Make a few others happy but piss others (that may be happy with the original announcement) off!

If the left/right wing media don't like any of the policy announcements, tell them to shove it.
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26-11-2019 03:24:50 Mobile | Show all posts
I know all politicians do it but it turned my stomach to hear May avoid every direct question put to her on the Andrew Neil show tonight.
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26-11-2019 03:24:50 Mobile | Show all posts
Tory voters are generally very party loyal, especially the older ones. I don't think this is nearly as big of a problem as the opposition parties would like it to be.

I don't think this issue will affect things in any big way as there's a much bigger issue on peoples minds come June 8th, on that particular subject I'm not even sure if Corbyn himself knows what his position is, let alone the voters having any kind of a clue.


I still say this is a good honest policy though, whether it's the current government or another one that implements it I think this will become policy in the none too distant future.

(It should have never gone in an election manifesto though)
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26-11-2019 03:24:50 Mobile | Show all posts
Should get a few more yes/no/direct answers tomorrow night

Edit. Actually nothing to beat as i don't recall TM answering anything directly.
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