Young people not so proud of being English

weaviemx5

UKIP? Farage as their fuhrer, Britain First as their more illiterate nephews

weaviemx5

Oh come on now IG, Tommy's a martyr and a campaigner for free speech...in fact, some of his most loving supporters see him as there* country's saviour;

                                                                                                                                               

Ignoring the facts obviously..

                                                                                                                                       

rancidpunk

I guess young people just actually understand the meaning of the word pride.

justincase

Indeed  i do,,the only decent photo i took from a day out at the tower of london,the poppies didnt look right as such a small image,Never had anything else to place in my avatar ,i don't really keep photos on a pc and couldn't think of anything witty enough

As for insight,,i don't feel any particular pride about England,it is where i was born and generations of my family further back than the English Civil War ( as a side note part of my past family owned the land that the bank of England was built on,,do you think i could make a claim )
My observation is that the English identity has and is being eroded,you only have to look at the fact that the real national anthem is no longer played and most people nowadays don't even know what it is..

The English are not British,,neither are the Scots,Welsh or the folk from northern Ireland but we all are as a collective...Would say it is my opinion that the more people are told they can't have pride in anything the more they will resist,with the inevitable groups taking advantage  of the situation

This is as close as i get to social media so have no insight in to whether right wing groups are more vocal on there nowadays,the only group i ever joined was the Desperate Dan Pie Eaters Club

Sonic67

UKIP is the far right? A party that expelled any former members of the BNP? Something that Labour and the Conservatives haven't done.

Not wanting to be in the EU has nothing to do with being the far right. Ask the socialist labour party.

weaviemx5

I never said UKIP were far right.  You asked if any of the far right social media groups had led to political power and I simply suggested that UKIP would, I assume, happily accept their votes as the disenfranchised patriots those groups see themselves as.  Nothing better for a political party formed specifically to break the UK away from the EU and restore national pride than a load of brainwashed sheep who will do exactly as they're told if there's a Union Flag or George Cross on the party leaflet.

nabby

The person who accused you of being EDL, surely they were acting like a keyboard warrior...

justincase

Think the government and the judiciary shot themselves in the foot a bit with regards to this one and are playing  in to the far rights hands,,i don't know tommy robinsons political views so i can't comment on that but it would appear the authorities, even by placing the reporting restrictions on the trial, are trying to hide something,,if that wasn't the case should that not be the same for all jury trials..
arrested him for breach of the peace and got him sentenced for contempt of court in what must be near record time..
Now regardless of peoples views on tommy robinson does this not seem a bit suspect

weaviemx5

Probably best reading up on Tommy (sorry, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's) history if you haven't heard of him.  The Judge set reporting restrictions to ensure a trial with no calls for unfair prejudice by the defence, to ensure actual justice for the victims and their families.  However, in Tommy Robinsons' world, that means the Government are hiding something and blocking freedom of speech and he was duty-bound to report on it...thereby being in contempt of court.  He did exactly the same at the previous closed trial for a similar Muslim grooming gangs' trial 12 months' ago where was also found in contempt of court and given a 13 month sentence, suspended for 18 months.  As per anyone else who already have a suspended sentence over them, there is no trial, he was simply issued the 13 month sentence he was given last year and taken away...boo hoo.

Of course, his dutiful followers see it as a travesty of justice, even calling him a political prisoner which goes to show how easily duped people can be through social media when they're played by slightly more intelligent idiots than themselves.

weaviemx5

Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon (born 27 November 1982[3]), known by the pseudonym Tommy Robinson, and previously as Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris,[4] is a far-right activist[5][6][7][8][9] who co-founded and served as spokesman and leader of the English Defence League (EDL),[10] from which he resigned in 2013. He is currently serving a 13-month prison sentence for contempt of court after publishing a Facebook Live video of defendants entering a law court, contrary to the restrictions on reporting those specific ongoing trials.[11]

He also founded the European Defence League, and for a short time in 2012 was joint party vice-chairman of the British Freedom Party. He led the EDL from 2009 until 8 October 2013, when he was persuaded to leave the organisation by the think tank Quilliam. He continued as an activist, and in 2015 became involved with the development of Pegida UK, a British chapter of the German-based Pegida organisation.[12] Addressing a Pegida anti-Islam rally, Robinson stated that European culture was being put at risk by "fake refugees who have no intention of integration and no intention of assimilation". He said, "There is a reason why the state fears me in England. It is because we can bring people together and we are going to enter into a new era in Europe where everyone is going to unite against the Islamisation of our countries".[13]

He was a writer for The Rebel Media and the author of an autobiography, Enemy of the State, and Mohammed's Koran: Why Muslims Kill for Islam, co-authored by Peter McLoughlin.