Working at Amazon

Werewolfs

To treat people with a sense of worth or value and not as robots does not necessarily mean increasing costs on the business.
They can fill the jobs now but if theres a high turn over of staff then their costs increase anyway by means of training/hiring new workers.

Bl4ckGryph0n

Come on dude lets get real, certain jobs will always have a high turn over of staff. That can be for a variety of reasons. Staying in a barely over the minimum wage is not a long term objective for anyone I'd suggest as one of the reasons.

Pacifico

That is correct. But that is a commercial decision for the company. What you are alluding to is the Famous Henry Ford $5 a day decision for his workers. At the time the average wage for assembly workers was about $2.50 but Ford was losing production due to the high turnover of staff - hence he made the commercial decision to increase wages to $5 a day. But that commercial decision would only have made sense if it saved more money in increased production than it cost in higher wages.

Its exactly the same in Amazon - until they get to the point where they are having problems recruiting and retaining staff, there is no incentive for them to increase their costs for staff. I suspect they have not reached that point yet.

Bl4ckGryph0n

I agree, and not just that...I'm pretty certain they are aware of that, just like anyone employing people is...

Werewolfs

You are seeing it as purely monetary to make people feel valued but its not just that.

kilvil

well to be fair your not allowed to go around hugging employees anymore.

Pacifico

What sort of increased 'value' are you looking for that doesnt have a cost attached?

Bl4ckGryph0n

What are you thinking? Free coffee/tea, a stocked fridge to help yourself with soft drinks and beer and wine, some packets of crisps in the cupboards, ice creams in the fridge, a selection of pot noodles in the cupboard for when hungry, fresh fruit basket delivered daily, MacBook Pro's and iPhone X's for every employee, workplace massages, games room with arcade games, board games, console games...Oh and flexible hours that fit with you private life, school run, and you can work from home when required.....

You do realise what kind of job is being discussed don't you?

IronGiant

Tone it down a bit please, it's far too argumentative today.

Werewolfs

You still seem to attach that to make an employee feel valued it actually has to have a physical cost to it.  Moral and productivity can be raised by treating people with a little respect. Not as dogs/robots. In turn you get respect back from your workforce. Less staff turnover, less initial training, less absenteeism,potentially less accidents, less skiving. More bettering your business KPIs or GEs and ultimately more business profit.
   Its all well and good to have a stick but when the stick is not in sight then an employee is liable to hold back on their best. Is it not better to have an employee actually wanting to work for you therefore giving their best at all times.
    Amazon just as an example (its hearsay though as I and you I imagine have never worked there) don’t need my useless help they earn enough as it is but its strange how people can not see that it could be better. Maybe its the management education side of things its moved on from the empathetic side of things to a more authoritarian style.         In low paid/low skilled jobs there is not much financial incentive that can be introduced thats just the nature of it. I am sure we can agree on this but this does not mean we have to go back to treating people as if its a victorian workhouse with little to their daily worth.