Another monstrous beheading by ISIS

pragmatic

The thing is a large number of mosques have refused to condemn ISIS when asked, so the issue is in Europe as well as the middle east.

I would hope that any right thinking person would condemn them, but there are seem to be a fair number of people that don't, and may even be sympathetic to them for some reason.

DandyAndy

The first thing they will do is hide in civilian areas, no doubt lots on YouTube news channels, of dead women and children in the coming days.   If we are serious and we are not given the Arab allies who happen to be pretty nasty states themselves, who we back, are pretty good recruiting tools all of the time.  The best we can hope for is we bomb them into constructive communicating in which case another group will fill the void.


The other option is also ground occupation for as long as it takes and unless this is the full strategy we are weeing in the wind just like Libya, in which case.

" Saudi Arabia  can use  300 combat aircraft. The kingdom's combat aircraft are newly acquired Eurofighter Typhoons and upgraded Tornado IDS, F-15 Eagle and F-15E Strike Eagle fighter planes. Saudi Arabia has a further 80  F-15 Eagles on order and an option to buy another 72 Eurofighter Typhoons" with its British trained pilots are more than capable!   

Armed Forces of Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Arabian Aerospace - Saudi catches the UK train

pragmatic

May not be part of the thread title, Oklahoma Beheading: Fired Man's Knife Rampage
But crazy Muslim's seem to be making a thing of beheading people lately.

DandyAndy

Its what very nasty crazy criminals do regardless of religion, he could have got such inspiration from- GRAPHIC: Mexican Terrorist Cartel Beheads Four Women As A Message To America |

Ps it was not easy getting a link that did not show the horror of what happened.

IronGiant

Thanks for taking the time to find a suitable link

krish

Unfortunately a teabaggers' news site though

IronGiant

I trusted him that it was a "safe" link Is it not?

Naqv

So, because people don't condemn them on demand, they "may even be sympathetic to them".  I have an intense hatred of ISIS and everything they stand for but certainly will not condemn them on demand to satisfy some people who seem to want an apology from a muslim, any muslim every time something happens; its these people who want condemnation's logic that is flawed.

Stuey1

There is quite a difference between people wanting Muslims to condemn them (this is because it is assumed the most likely people that IS would take any notice of - this logic is flawed) and expecting an apology from a muslim...

I haven't heard much demand for mosque leaders to apologise for them, personally I'm not bothered about mosque leaders publicly condemning them either as I can't see it making a slight bit of difference.

It would only have an effect if they were appealing to rational people, which IS have proven themselves not to be!

I also don't see the logic that someone who doesn't publicly condemn them when asked to means they are on their side, perhaps they don't want to be involved with either side

Cliff

Labour MP Rushanara Ali Resigns Over Vote for Military Air Strikes Against Isis in Iraq

Interesting. I doubt she would have resigned had she not been a Muslim.  As an MP representing many Muslims in her constituency this indicates strong Muslim opposition to air-strikes.