London’s murder rate continues upwards

Pacifico

Toko Black

That's your argument and evidence is it ?
What someone said they wanted to try and achieve without actually having the actual power to change it, to which he has since changed his view.

versus actual policy statements and changes to the Law by the Home Secretary, who clearly DOES have the power and HAS used it first to restrict and then now to ease.

Seriously ... you really want to keep flogging this riddiculous dead horse and dig yourself deeper ?

Bl4ckGryph0n

Ahem who is responsible for the police priorities in London?

According to the police is is drum roll ....
Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime - for the Metropolitan Police Service - Police.uk

Toko Black

priorities ... but from 2012 until March 2019, the Home Office had limited the use and range of section 60.
...drum role etc.

If I give you £10 to spend at your discretion on biscuits and nibbles for the forum members tea break, you could spend all of it, none or any amount in between and we could hold you accountable for what you spent.

... we could not however hold you accountable for not buying £15 worth of Hob Nobbs ...

The Mayor has the ability to advise the police on their discretionary use of powers and enforcement within the limitations and framework set by the Home Office.

Do you agree or disagree that the use and range of section 60 powers were limited by the Home Office in 2012 and have just been relaxed somewhat following on from the decision at the end of March 2019 ?

Pacifico

Well my argument and evidence is from the office of the Mayor..

The Police Reform and Social Responsibility Act 2011 established a Police and Crime Commissioner for each police force area across England and Wales. In London, the elected Mayor – Sadiq Khan, is the equivalent of the Police and Crime Commissioner and is responsible for the totality of policing in the capital (outside of the City of London).

The Police and Crime Plan reflects the Mayor’s manifesto and priorities for making London a safer city for all Londoners and the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) is the strategic oversight body tasked with devising the Police and Crime Plan and ensuring that it is delivered over four years


The Mayor at MOPAC​

Bl4ckGryph0n

As my learned friend said earlier; rubbish. He is in charge of Policing, get on with it.

Toko Black

He can't MAKE the law.
The Home Office restricted and limited section 60 use, ergo Khan was restricted to those Home Office applied limitiations.

Toko Black

No, you are either being deliberately obtuse for the sake of argument/political purposes, or you simply don't understand the UK legal system.

Pacifico

Remind me when Khan was criticizing the Home Office for stopping him tackle crime effectively..

Toko Black

Remind me when he specifically praised the Home Office for providing him with all the means to tackle crime effectively.