London’s murder rate continues upwards

EarthRod

Rubbish.

Cliff

I am sure we do need more Police officers who are visibly policing. But it appears they are no longer a force- I think a poster here said they were in an advisory role or something!
The murder rate would be much much lower if street knife crime could be reduced. Much of it is gang related- revenge- dissing- initiation - drug related etc. (Predominately affecting black people)

The riot in Stratford where a very large group of youths ambushed police and pelted them with stuff shows they don’t have authority anymore.

“Officers were ambushed by around 100 youths and were pelted with bottles, while polcie seized a large hunting knife found on the floor.”


Of course the Mayor is totally ineffective. Has no ideas, makes no statements on how the police are supposed to tackle it, and does not give them any direction on things like stop and search. He should be on the same side as the police, maybe he is, I haven’t a clue what he is doing, as he certainly hasn’t told us. All he talks about is Trump, and tweets, now it’s racism. Anything to deflect from his inability to knock heads together and face this head on.


London bloodbath: Horror fatal stabbing in Stratford days after 100 youths attack police

weaviemx5

I think you’re referencing me with regards to their ‘advisory’ role. I was responding to another poster complaining that they were wasting time visiting a man who’d posted an aggressive tweet to advise him not to do it again.  As I said, the Police are always an ‘advisory’ role in the sense that they advise people according to the law.  If someone has been deemed to have broken a law, they are arrested.  If they haven’t, but someone else has used their right to accuse them of something, they may just advise them of their actions but take it no further.

It’s nothing new, my dad was in Merseyside Police for 30 years and probably spent more time ‘advising’ people not to break the law than actually arresting people, as all good deterrents should be.

With regards to Khan and London policing, what are your thoughts on the Met Commander’s role in this? Are they just as much to blame, seeing as they are directly responsible for policing and planning?  As far as I’m aware, they’ve raised similar concerns with regards to cuts in funding.

domtheone

Too many snowflakes.  Not enough Police?  Though, even if we had more police, would it matter if they are so ineffective.

I think London needs Robocop

Cliff

Khan should have his own ideas, meet the Met commander and they should formulate a strategy. They must be on the same page. Doing nothing and sending mixed messages is not a solution.

weaviemx5

I’d argue that the Mayor should worry about finances and leave the Policing to the Police.  Do we really want politicians making policing decisions?

justincase

You would think that would be the case but if no law is broken why are they even getting involved

If they haven't broken the law how could the police take it further or what advice could they give

Sorry  but accusing someone of something is not a right ,if it was there would be no recourse for wrongful accusations..

So his presence was likely the detterent ,which is what seems to be lacking nowadays..
I take by advising people he told them not to do something unlawful that he thought was about to happen which is what the police are meant to do afaict

Toko Black

A solid and persuasive argument, that has really put me on the back foot.

Toko Black

Maybe they should watch Blue Peter and learn how they can cobble together lots of new police officers, resources and funding from an empty washing up bottle, a cornflakes packet and some sticky back plastic.

Pacifico

Khan did have his own ideas - one of the policies he was elected on was to reduce 'stop and search'. Of course the subsequent explosion in violent crime forced him into a u-turn which the Met Commissioner has said that the return of ‘stop and search’ has helped cut crime dramatically in London.