Jo Swinson - New Lib Dem Leader

Sonic67

Aren't you the one who kept condemning them for not having a manifesto?

                                                                       

weaviemx5

I’m the one acknowledging that they have (finally) proposed policies.  You’re the one saying they will disappear once we leave the EU.

Sonic67

Farage I think would disappear. He did last time, or at least gave up as leader.

Ukip tried to carry on in the aftermath of the referendum, went through numerous leaders and then finished up moving to the right.

I said immediately after the referendum they would have been better off going for the disaffected Labour voters who didn't want Corbyn.

Bl4ckGryph0n

Aren't you the same guy who complained they had no other policies?

Oh, and who wanted him into government unelected? Nobody here.

Bl4ckGryph0n

Not a Democrat, and actually I can’t liken their views/policies to that of Liberalism either. They’ve been lost for decades, and only got further away from finding a way back. They have no clue who they are anymore nor why they are called Liberal Democrats. A shame.

weaviemx5

Not just expressing her thought, her thoughts are to actually actively go against democracy. That is just hypocritical.

raduv1

Yes, I complained that they’re supposedly a Party, campaigning for votes, with no manifesto.  I’m also being realistic, and not assuming Farage would simply walk away once we’ve left the EU.

You’re calling for Johnson to do a deal with him to secure votes in a GE.  What do you think Farage would want in return, tea and biscuits?

raduv1

It certainly is . What is the Labour Party and JCs stance on remaining or leaving the EU though ? They don't want to stay in ? Don't want to crash out and it seems don't want to vote yes on any Conservative goverment deal.

The only thing they want from Brexit is a GE.

Whilst I would not really want a Conservative/TBP pact at the very least they are singing from the same hymn sheet.

On the GE front , not sure what others think . Boris seems to be on the campagne trail since he took over as PM ?

weaviemx5

But he did last time. If we had left the EU, he'd be off doing something else.

Let me say it again.

I don't care.

He can be PM for all I'm bothered, so long as we leave the EU. (And if he is elected and can command the confidence of the HoC).

LX200GPS

I think he knows he can't get a deal through, and that no deal will provoke a VoNC that he might lose.

So he's positioning himself to take advantage of that situation to give momentum for a campaign.

If he gets bxp voters on board and remain stays split then he'll win. The risk is if labour replace JC  and enter into a remain electoral pact with the Libdems. Looks unlikely but Swinson hasn't shown very good judgement so far.