What is the definition of ‘the will of the people’?

klaxhu

How to bypass it?

FireCrackerJim

One simple example: the way the lords were named or born into their lifetime roles and not elected (until not very long ago).

If we have to have a discussion on the technicalities of the representative democracy we live in and its history while we have history books and google then we are doing something wrong.

FireCrackerJim

yeah me too

fat jez

dude they can choose to remove and they do "No" from the vote lol at you

Sonic67

So they are appointed?

When did we vote on who our EU commissioner is?

Sonic67

About the same time we voted for our PM. The process is similar, i.e. not voted on directly by the people.

fat jez

Then please link to an example. On either point.

The polls largely point to a Remain win.

For the last few days before the vote, it was 14 polls, with only 3 for leave.

What time frame would you prefer?

                                                                               


For Remain.

What are you on about? Again? Did you even look at your own link, what?
Reality. How about you? I'm honestly fascinated as to what point you are making.
Are you posting all this as some kind of joke? What?

Sonic67

Some are there from inheritance, but then you are even admitting it's reformed. If they can, why not the EU?

And that's aside from "whataboutery." Just because the House of Lords exists doesn't mean the EU isn't undemocratic.

How about both should be reformed?
Given how you don't even seem to be able to get correct information from Google perhaps we need it.

FireCrackerJim

Just as we didn't vote for any of the EU presidents.

So what is it the EU can teach us about democracy?

Can I vote for those who propose laws in the EU? Can I do that in the UK?

fat jez

Yes, you vote for MEPs in Europe and MPs in the UK (and AMs or MSPs in Wales or Scotland).