Should NHS workers get a pay rise?

Pacifico

Perhaps the reason why there are vacancies is quite simple - we are not training enough. Last year 44,000 students applied for Nurse training and only 23,000 were accepted.

Pacifico

Are there vacancies due to staff leaving and not being replaced?

Or is it because demand is rising faster than supply? Which is a very different issue.

Clear to me that you don't really care which is the true situation. You just want it to be the fault of the Tories and the public sector pay freeze.

ghrh

Vacancies are a combination of both factors.
In the first case the reasons include wages.

Pacifico

What's the point of training more with all the extra cost and investment when you cannot retain them?

Pacifico

Given that training places are oversubscribed by almost 100% it would kinda suggest that the pay rates are not as bad as some might suggest.

Toko Black

Is staff turnover in the NHS very much worse than other sectors of the economy?

ghrh

Not getting better for sure.

ghrh

Seems that around 1% of NHS staff leave each month





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Longy00000

So to compare with the average in the economy


"The UK average employee turnover rate is approximately 15% a year, although this varies drastically between industries.

The highest levels of turnover are found in private sector organisations in retailing, catering, call centres, construction and media. Turnover levels also vary from region to region with the highest rates found where unemployment is lowest

Industries with traditionally low turnover rates include legal, accountancy, education and the public sector."
​So the NHS with an average turnover of 12% is lower than the rest of the economy

Ruperts slippers

You do realise that most GP's don't earn anywhere near that amount.
It is only the practice manager/head GP(Partner) that runs a practice that gets a significant amount of money. There are often 4 doctors earning between £30-50k and 1 or more partners earning £100k or more.
The average wage for a GP is around £58k, but that is inflated because of partner pay, and for the most part the majority of GP's are going to be earning in that £30-50k bracket.

However, headlines stating GP's on £100 k and little to no context or clarification tends to lead a considerable amount of people to the misinformed and misguided idea that most or all GP's are on £100 k.

10 years ago, I was earning more than my current GP does today, so spending 8 to 10 yrs training doesn't quite seem to lead to all champagne and caviar as some may think.