SteakAndCake Publish time 25-11-2019 22:10:37

I know you remainers want to stay in your fortress Europe but that's a bit extreme.

There's a big world out there. Time you guys embraced it.

klaxhu Publish time 25-11-2019 22:10:38

Very interesting discussion on politics live on the BBC as I type.

John Curtice making the point in the Newport by election that the Tories and labour lost 20% of the vote share between them.

And that polling shows UKIP and the brexit party could get up to 25% support.

Good. fudge the mainstream parties.

SteakAndCake Publish time 25-11-2019 22:10:38

And that can only be a good thing if it happens.

20 years of Labour/Tory goverments have been, sadly pretty terrible, in the main.

Long overdue someone else to have a turn/input (just not the Lib Demsdata:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7).

Bl4ckGryph0n Publish time 25-11-2019 22:10:38

Because extremism never ends badly does it?

Bl4ckGryph0n Publish time 25-11-2019 22:10:38

In this case I’d tolerate it data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

SteakAndCake Publish time 25-11-2019 22:10:38

UKIP and the Brexit parties are jokes, but their rise moves the center further right.What comes after them might not be as incompetent, parochial, or funny.

Bl4ckGryph0n Publish time 25-11-2019 22:10:39

UKIP is now, but was pretty mainstream albeit a single issue party. I couldn’t possibly support them these days. But it’s rise wasn’t due to the right, it was about leaving the EU.

Greg Hook Publish time 25-11-2019 22:10:39

And it’s a real shame that on paper both the Conservative and Labour are for Brexit. Yet in practise they are just in it for themselves.

Bl4ckGryph0n Publish time 25-11-2019 22:10:39

Obviously the current political parties are doing a great job, so we should just carry on as things are?

SteakAndCake Publish time 25-11-2019 22:10:40

That's no excuse to embrace the fringes and extremes.
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