Fibre Internet, how do I get it up a long private driveway?

tom 2000

Which is really where this thread started.

tom 2000

9. Line Attenuation: 38.2 / 28.8
10. Signal Attenuation: 0.0 / 0.0

What's SNR?

tom 2000

Noise Margin?
8. Noise Margin: 6.4 / 10.3

tom 2000

Im hoping if they went to the bother of putting what appears to be Fibre Junctions or Nodes or whatever they are called on my pole which only serves me and one other that they will be prepared to do it. And if they are prepared to pole and cable it, which would be a bollox, then how much more expensive could a length of duct and a digger be? It can come up a green field. Look at the saving on the poles. Timber aint cheap.

outoftheknow

Yes. 6 is fine but you say you have an unstable connection so can you change that manually higher or can your provider put you a more stable profile? This was common in ADSL but VDSL often allows the modem to negotiate and cannot be changed. The provider should be able to at the DALAM but some just don’t. Trouble is as the noise margin increases you get stability but a drop in speed. Sometimes a trade off and depends on the users tolerance of instability.

Attenuation in VDSL isn’t the same calculation as for ADSL but over 30 looks about right for your distance to the cabinet to me.

If you get FTTP I wouldn’t worry at the moment.

EndlessWaves

If you're referring to post #52 then that's 1 stage rather than stage 1. 1 stage vs. 2 stage refers to how many engineer visits it takes to get FTTP installed onto the property.

Two stage installs involve the engineer bringing the fibre to a box on the outside of the building and then a second visit to bring it inside the property.

@tom 2000: It might be worth talking to more enthusiast-focused ISPs offering FTTP as they might be able to better guide you on the best way to prepare.

tom 2000

I don't know who else to talk to.
1 Stage I assumed to mean that Fibre was in the road and the Gobbins were up the pole. My across the road neighbour, who is not off the same pole, is on FTTC. When he signed up he was advised that when FTTP became available he could have an O/H line FOC or underground at his cost. I suspect he slipped up when building and didn't run a duct in. His existing service is U/G. Mind you O/H to his house could probably be direct from an existing pole. They have the nodes on my pole, how do they expect to make the connection, magic?

EndlessWaves

I don't know what the Openreach policy is for installations like this but it sounds like you haven't gotten very far with BT Retail's sales/customer service team when trying to discuss how the installation would go.

I'm suggesting you talk to another ISP offering the same service (Openreach FTTP) and in particular one of the enthusiast or business focused ones whose sales teams are more used to discussing unusual or technical requirements. An ISP like IDNet, AAISP or Zen.

I'd expect them to be much more willing to explain what openreach's likely course would be and what your options are, rather than the 'oh, the engineer will handle it' brush-off I'd imagine you've been getting from BT Retail.

You'll likely pay a bit more but you can always switch to a cheaper ISP a year or two down the line if you want.

tom 2000

One problem. I am committed to BT for the next 18 months. I reckoned the overpriced nature of my existing product was a more urgent issue. I didn't think my choice of ISP would unduly influence infrastructure provision.

tom 2000

Having said all that.