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 Author| 26-11-2019 03:10:58 Mobile | Show all posts
A Dead Statesman - Rudyard Kipling

I could not dig: I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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Very poweful and poignant that sums up the 2.6 millions words of the report for one person. Thanks.
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26-11-2019 03:10:58 Mobile | Show all posts
I don't find that at all funny, sorry
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The second line is the important one - we are part of the problem.
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26-11-2019 03:10:59 Mobile | Show all posts
IG - I don't think that was meant to be funny.
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For Two Jags to pipe up now is just not right, to say the least. He was deputy Prime Minister so in my book, was with Blair on this one.
Is he apologising with hindsight? If so that's OK, but not really the issue, as no one can see into the future. Or is he apologising for misleading the country along with his boss?

Alternatively, he could be distancing himself from Blair, and making out Blair alone was responsible. That just doesn't fly. The Government of the time were responsible. If he didn't like the decision then, like Robin Cook, you say so.
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26-11-2019 03:11:00 Mobile | Show all posts
There are some interesting poll results on the YouGov site, from which:

"But more than 10 years of opposition is a long time, and many people now remember things differently. Now only 37% of the public say they believed military action against Saddam Hussein was right at the time, instead of the 54% recorded at the time."

                                                                                                                                               

Source: YouGov |  Memories of Iraq: did we ever support the war?

Obviously, you have to be very careful about these polls, but does that suggest some sort of false memory effect? I.e., some people constructing in their heads a belief they had opposed the war all along, when that is not true.

There are memories of wars and then there are memory wars:

Memory Wars | News from both sides of the fight
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26-11-2019 03:11:01 Mobile | Show all posts
I thought it was wrong at the time, the 'evidence' for WMDs was a mixture of fantasy and outright lies.
"Oh yes, we have definite proof, we can see some WMDs by satellite". Inspectors get there  and there is no trace. Of course, there was no further surveillance by aircraft to keep track.
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