NHS not fit for the 21st century

Bl4ckGryph0n

Must be my wicked cappuccinos I make might even throw in a biscuit.

EarthRod

These days you would need Champagne and Lobster Thermidor

Enki

No surprise A&E are suffering the worst waiting times on record! Can't trust Tories with the NHS.

NHS England suffers worst A&E waiting times on record

Sloppy Bob

You can't trust Labour either.

The rot set in decades ago with successive Tory and Labour governments who seem to think the way to fix it is to throw more levels of management in who don't actually manage and take money away from essential services.
I don't want a privatised NHS but if it was ran as a proper business and not as a cash cow for other businesses who supply the NHS it would be in much better shape.

Bl4ckGryph0n

And the funny thing is Labour privatised more than the Conservatives ever did. But nope, the likes of Enki just keep on rewriting history and ignoring those parts. Or then come out with something silly like that was a different labour.

Just more Tories are bad blah blah blah. Doesn’t matter what they do.

domtheone

A&E attendance 2009 - 2010 : 13.6m
A&E attendance 2017 - 2018 : 15.4m

Statistics » A&E Attendances and Emergency Admissions 2017-18
(Quarterly time series sheet has an annual tab)

A 13% increase in attendance in 8 years.

rustybin

^^^^
No surprises there.   Well only that it could have been more than 13%

Rampant population growth strikes again.    No doubt due to uncontrolled immigration (and older people living longer/kept alive by modern medicine) before anyone has a go at the immigration dig

Bl4ckGryph0n

I'm not sure Labour good, Tories bad is particularly helpful. What the Tories are doing obviously isn't working, so that needs addressing, and we need a longer-term solution. I'd like to think that post-Brexit there would be some more fundamental changes, but I won't hold my breath.

Enki

I hope so...It doesn't help the NHS if it isn't allowed to evolve...

nabby

I think the context is important. A 13% increase in 8 years is pretty huge.

The NHS is bigger than ever, doing more than ever. More people at GPs,  more in A&E, more operations, etc.

It's never been clear to me why the antipathy to the Tories and the NHS when they've protected funding during a period of severe stress on government finances, and saw big increases in demand outside their control.

For the 8 years from 2003-4 it increased from  12.7m to 14m. An increase of 10%. So it isn't even that demand has increased at a steady rate.