Next general election - who to vote for

raduv1

Now your really going out there , Alhough I do agree with mandatory Atmos in new builds . I may flip on this . OLED day time viewing may be to far along with 120".

raduv1

Oh I missed the Oppo part of your post as perfect analogy for the Lib Dems in we have a great product that can never truly deliver the goods without endless countless tinkering And in the end the consumer moves on .

Palladio

Just an observation as don't have the time or inclination to get involved here but it does seems to me that from being an old AVF reader (going back at least 15 years ) much the same has happened here as within the Tory party. Everybody has moved the goalpost to the right so the centre ground is now where the old Tory party stood and the Labour Party is deemed to be some 'crazy left loonies full of anti-semites'. The reality is that current Labour Party policy is no more socialist than the vast majority of left wing parties in Europe. I'll declare my interest as a member of the Labour party for over 10 years and also a member of Momentum and never in all the meeting i have attended or the social media groups I belong to have I met anybody who I would remotely describe as anti-semitic. Coming back on here made me almost feel I'd stumbled on a UKIP chat room by mistake.
"If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." Mark Twain.

raduv1

As a member myself I find JC a backwards step going all the way back to Foot and I for one do not want the Labour party in the wilderness once again for years to come . Momentum is the worst aspect of the party and i find its practices quite disgusting and only remain a member to have a voice against JC and Momentum . And yes the party has a problem with antisemitism and even a member has to realise this as fact at this point .

Much like JC  you do not have the time or inclination to get involved , there in lies the real problem..........

Bl4ckGryph0n

Ouch, I was more thinking along the lines of a great product, the best, but too many cheap skate consumers who don’t realise that paying for quality costs. That reminds me I’d bring Pioneer plasmas back as well

Bl4ckGryph0n

Well put!

raduv1

Hmm you may get me vote on the Pioneer front .

Cliff

Regardless of the antisemitism issue, please do get more informed about Corbyn.
Because of the Tory mess over Brexit, Corbyn might find himself in No.10. Just like he found himself in charge of the Labour Party.
If you are a labour supporter do you really want him and his cohorts to  be in charge of the UK?

Trollslayer

It would be a disaster, he has shown little sign of leadership.

rancidpunk

Obviously by little, you mean none whatsoever. In terms of leadership Tom Watson often seems the only voice with anywhere near the objectivity needed to represent a major political party.