Israel in turmoil over bill allowing Jews and Arabs to be segregated

Bl4ckGryph0n

Nope, I will take the other option.

I don't accept any guilt for what previous generations may have done. Other people are free to self flagellate if they like, but I only accept responsibility for what I've done.

Similarly I don't blame the Scots for ravaging Northern England, the Danes for ravaging England, etc.

Maybe other people should try moving on from empire guilt.

nabby

I’m offended that we come under the etc

EarthRod

Interesting that you bring up guilt.  No-one else did.  Your straw man, you knock it down.  Be my guest.

BobbyMac

Such a post, with all it's associated hooks and traps, can be responded to.

However, care needs to be taken not to deliberately shoot down any AVForum member who does respond.

Trollslayer

Oh right.

So I should be celebrating when talking about the bad things the empire did?

Toko Black

Isn't this just the thin edge of the wedge anyway?

alQuds on Twitter

Trollslayer

Not a surprise.

Bl4ckGryph0n

I suspect that Nabby was infering the often lack of tempering ones bravado, patriotism, but especially feelings and expressions of nationalistic superiority with a rational, realistic and balanced view of our own history before condemning others.

Nothing wrong with critiquing another nations policies, actions, culture or beliefs, as long as it is done from a position of acceptance of ones own nations flaws.
That is something some people can't or don't want to accept and appear unable to let it slide.

robel

Well said, thank you.

EarthRod

Agreed, but the point is that one is in the here and now and the other is a historic one. Just because we've been bad 100s of years ago doesn't mean we shouldn't critique someone who is bad today...