Boris Johnson: the new PM to energise the country?

philbot

You’ve reported me for trolling, by quoting your post and questioning the validity of the statement.  Maybe it’s easier if nobody questions anything said from now on, if it can get you elected to PM it must be a good tactic.

richp007

They are a non-entity in parliament now.

But they can deliver a large number of votes in a future general election.

Roughly labour, the Libdems, Tories and bxp are on 20% each.

If the Tories can do a deal with Farage, then potentially they have 40% of the vote to labour and the Libdems on 20%.

That should secure a decent working majority and will reduce the ability of people like Grieve to frustrate the process - either because he gets actual principles and won't stand for a manifesto he won't support, he gets replaced, or his vote becomes irrelevant.

maddy

A GE that may not even happen. Perhaps not until 2022.

Then what you say about a future deal may be true, but my point is our new PM has however just ruled out any kind of deal with TBP. They have no seats, no power, no say in Parliament. Currently.

Plus Johnson certainly won't want to be seen this early on as weak and needing the help of anyone else to sort out Brexit. Of course I'll never like them anyway, but I'm saying from a neutral standpoint in this instance that they're as powerless as they've been and all they can do is wait and see if they are brought into play.

SteakAndCake

May bids farewell before Johnson enters No 10

                                                                               
                                                                               

Oh there will be some frothing over this. Well it will finally be brexiteers in charge.

maddy

@weaviemx5 @Squiffy can you both drop this 20% squabble.  It was a prediction of what would happen in an upcoming election.  There is no need to argue about what was or wasn't meant any more.

raduv1

The only question will be who to blame if Johnson doesn’t deliver his “do or die” exit on the 31st October.

SteakAndCake

Everyone knows that is a bluff.  Only the most ignorant of people will want to hold the can when that cluster**** goes down.

He's had security briefings now, he knows about the civil unrest No Deal will cause.  His ego will not allow a whole country to hang the no deal consequences on him.

weaviemx5

It certainly removes the, “it was a Remoaner-led Brexit” argument so it will certainly be interesting to see what happens.

SteakAndCake

But Boris is a Remainer though isn't he?  I mean, we all know he'll do anything for power, but his actual natural political instinct is remain. I thought that was clear?  The whole Leave thing was just an attempt to play the public to gain the top job which worked.

SteakAndCake

I still think a Boris PM makes Brexit less likely to happen.  He won't get a new deal and that leaves No Deal or Revoke.  Parliament and Boris's ego simply won't allow No Deal.  I think we're closer to revocation today than we were a month ago.