Boris Johnson: the new PM to energise the country?

weaviemx5

Besides it wasn’t a general election either. It’s a shame there can’t be a sensible debate anymore in here, everything gets taken to the extremes.

krish

Thorough answer there, thanks.  So when did TBP receive 20% of the vote in a General Election?

You said yourself that they’re a protest party, who you would vote for to get the Tories to be more Tory.  They’ve now got the head of the official Leave campaign in charge.

Goooner

So we’re back round to politicians, particularly Johnson, able to proclaim whatever they like in hustings as there’s no actual requirement or expectation for him to deliver any of them.

krish

He said he wanted achieve specific things, so he should work towards delivering them, shouldn't he? Everyone knows they weren't GE pledges - doesn't mean he can just freely abandon those aims, or have we now lowered the bar to Del Boy politics?

Sonic67

He can and should work towards them.

But they are not pledges and it's ridiculous for them to be portrayed as such.

weaviemx5

Especially as nobody seems the least bit bothered when manifesto pledges get ignored at the drop of a hat.

Sonic67

Forget the semantics, people just want him to try and stay true to his word.

weaviemx5

Repeating as you clearly didn't read it first time.

A party with around 20% of votes in a general election is not irrelevant.

(Based on current polling for Westminster voting intentions)

And it may have escaped your notice but it isn't November 1 and we haven't left yet.

A general election now can give the Tories a working majority, and allow people like Grieve who won't support their manifesto to step down.

But by all means just ignore it and we can have the exact same conversation again. Again.

domtheone

Boris isn't even sworn in yet, how about giving him a little time to deliver?

I mean he's going to be PM and Yasmin said she'd leave if he was, first bonus already.

Bl4ckGryph0n

I did read it, it’s still not factually correct.  Voting intentions isn’t the same as actual voting in a GE.  

TBP, and those who used them as a protest in the euro elections, can say whatever they like but that fact is that they’re still an unproven party within UK politics, with one major policy.  

If Johnson sticks to his very specific word and takes the UK out of the EU on the 31st October, that will please the Tory voters who put their vote to TBP and they will return.  I thought that was the entire point?