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Second Referendum, looked at from the day after

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25-11-2019 22:15:14 Mobile | Show all posts
None at all?

Really?

How ridiculous.
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25-11-2019 22:15:14 Mobile | Show all posts
Go back through my posts, it would seem you quite like bringing up historical quotes.

I am happy to listen to differing opinions and make a conclusion. I am happy to review said conclusion with new facts and review as appropriate.
Seriously though, what makes anyone think this current way forward is worth pursuing is beyond me.
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25-11-2019 22:15:15 Mobile | Show all posts
You are right. Blue passports.

Sorry, couldn't help myself
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25-11-2019 22:15:16 Mobile | Show all posts
So one vote to ignore the original referendum, but two to reenforce it? Hmm doesn’t make any sense to me.
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25-11-2019 22:15:17 Mobile | Show all posts
For 40 years now I have seen UK politicians come back from Brussels saying they are going to get change - and then get nothing. Perhaps its time to realize that those in Europe who support the project are quite happy with it as it is thank you very much..
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25-11-2019 22:15:18 Mobile | Show all posts
It really feels like we’re getting closer and closer to a confirmatory referendum.

While I do acknowledge the pitfalls that would have to be overcome, can anyone really argue against the UK public at large being much, MUCH more informed about all the options of Brexit than they were before the referendum? There was a lot of press before but it’s been INCESSANT since.

Pro or against, we are all considerably more informed now than we were before the first referendum because we just can’t escape the bloody thing whichever media we may be consuming.

To say this would be just another referendum like the one that we had last time is just ignoring all that.

Be against it because referenda are just bad ideas, because getting the question right would be impossible because of the options on the table, because it could cause more divisions. And many more reasonable arguments.

But to say it’s just the same thing again and we could just “keep running them until we get the answer we like” is a poor argument that ignores how much things have changed in the public’s understanding of brexit over the past few years.
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25-11-2019 22:15:19 Mobile | Show all posts
You have to consider that the result of the first referendum has not been enacted yet. I don't know of any other election or referendum where we vote again before the result has been carried out.  When we elect a government they are given time to govern before we we can change our minds and boot them out.
What you are proposing is changing the direction of Brexit before we have even left. We should see what it like like for a period (Cameron said a generation).

The second issue is about the people's vote question. If you ask, do we want to remain or leave, then it is just a rerun.
If you, as many remainers have suggested, believe we should be asked whether to remain or accept May's deal, we are in trouble and you will hear cries of foul play. It's a rotten deal (WA) which has been rejected by all sides in Parliament. We don't even know what our future relationship will be in this document- as it does not cover that most important point.

As for your OP, if remain won, the day after nothing would be settled. Yes there would be protests, but by far the greatest damage would be in our trust in MPs and Parliament itself.
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