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25-11-2019 22:00:57 Mobile | Show all posts |Read mode
Brexit means Brexit...... But....

Today Theresa May will make a major speech for the ears of the EU in Florence . She wants to break the deadlock and for that it means she will make an offer - a divorce payment.

From the BBC...
She will propose a two-year transitional deal, after March 2019, ahead of a permanent trade deal.
It could include payments worth 20bn euros over the two years.


Vince Cable said: "£20bn is just for starters. It's going to be a lot more than that - it's an opening offer."

Are you happy with the direction of the negotiation? The Tory party cabinet seems to driving in the same direction now, so the discussion should be about UK versus EU and are we approaching it in the right way.

Mrs May's plan is getting close to a so called 'soft Brexit'. We could be paying into the coffers of the EU for much longer than anyone expected to get good access to EU markets.
Will this limit our freedom to negotiate trade deals outside the EU, and are we still going to have to comply with EU rules?

Is this a sell out ? - Even though I doubt the EU will accept May's offer!

If you voted for Brexit, do you consider this deal as honouring the result?

Or, are you happy with this kind of approach - keeping one foot in the EU?
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25-11-2019 22:00:58 Mobile | Show all posts
The only Brexit deal that would be acceptable to me is the one that flounders and finally accepts that it can never be. I look forward to further Remain marches which put pressure on this government to finally give up this nonsense.Every EU flag I see flying raises my spirit as I see it as a symbol of common sense and the right of British people to call themselves EU citizens and all that entails. In fact, come what may, I believe they should continue having that right which also includes holding their current passport
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 Author| 25-11-2019 22:00:59 Mobile | Show all posts
Well that is fine and dandy had we not had the referendum. We now need to look at how our new relationship will be with the EU. There are quite a few variables in play here from no deal to some kind of deal. Accept that that is the reality now and ask yourself, what do you see as the best way forward?
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25-11-2019 22:00:59 Mobile | Show all posts
Leave means leave. Anything else will see a UKIP revival that will make the remainers wish they had kept their whining gobs shut.
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25-11-2019 22:00:59 Mobile | Show all posts
If true, it will depend on what the £20bn will get us. Seeing as it's roughly the net contribution we already pay, and we'll have no say anymore, then unless we are also free to strike our own trade deals I don't see it as anything other than a terrible deal. Pay the same to get less.
Flipside is I can't see the EU allowing us to get any deal that isn't worse than we already get as members, so I'd be surprised if they'd even accept that offer without even less benefits.
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25-11-2019 22:01:00 Mobile | Show all posts
A succinct description of a "soft" Brexit, which all the remainers seem so keen on. Go figure.
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25-11-2019 22:01:00 Mobile | Show all posts
I think it is a sellout and delaying the inevitable, or possible worse not going for a Brexit at all.

£20Bn over two years doesn't sound right either, that would be more than our current net contributions. That would be political suicide, and I feel not what we gave a mandate for at all.

The best way to navigate through this is to get out first, and then negotiate a deal if possible. Anything else just makes it unnecessarily complex and delays the inevitable.
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25-11-2019 22:01:00 Mobile | Show all posts
That's just one of many forms any brexit could take, one which maintains access to some benefits anyway.

I'd be happy to be free of the negatives, maintain all the benefits and pay no more than we do already. That's just a pipe dream though.

Long term we will still want to deal with each other though, and I'd love to see some sense from both sides in realising that in the short term too. Perhaps today's speech will actually be something May does that isn't a disaster, but I wouldn't bet my home on it.
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25-11-2019 22:01:00 Mobile | Show all posts
Just thought of another possibility; if there is a notion that the EU bid for £100Bn is justified, then this could potentially be a master stroke to save £80Bn But it will still be political suicide in the short term, but a great sacrifice for the country in the long run. We may find out in 30 years
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25-11-2019 22:01:01 Mobile | Show all posts
Pure Cancer. We're Brits not European.
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