Do you support the Johnson UK-EU deal [17 October version]?

clydebest

Answer to original question do i back Boris  and his UK /EU  deal do i Fudge.

tapzilla2k

I voted No, as it looks like a slightly tweaked version of the deal the EU offered before, which May rejected.

P-P-S-S

How can one support a deal which they do not know anything about??

Makes me laugh when people vote yes because all they do is show their desperation that they will accept anything as long as we get out of EU.

tapzilla2k

The only thing that should matter is if this deal protects the Economy and the Union that is the United Kingdom. If it can do neither then it's rubbish deal.

EarthRod

The same applies to those who don't support the deal which they do not know anything about.

That scenario should also make you laugh because all they do is show their desperation that they will reject anything as long as we stay in the EU.

...Works both ways.

Atmosphered

Looking at this back and forth, all I can say from an outsider's perspective is that you're tearing yourselves apart just like the U.S. and making stupid, possibly tragic decisions based on emotions and not logic.

And Putin is sitting back and laughing his arse off because he had a hand in this mess... (remember Cambridge Analytica?) just like in the U.S., in Europe, and in South America.  Oh, the tangled webs he weaves.  You don't believe me?  Just look at what is being exposed this week through legitimate journalistic means in terms of the dealings with Trump, his associates, and Russian backed Ukrainian oligarchs.  All roads lead to Putin.

KevH52

It is the WA without the backstop. It is not a deal. We only get a promise to negotiate trade deals. The EU cannot be trusted. If we accept it we will live to regret it.

TerFar

I understand that most of us are fed up with Parliament and Brexit. There's no desire for any deal: just argument and infighting amongst the MPs.

This Boris deal is just as bad as May's deal whether you're a remainer or a brexiteer: perhaps it is worse.

I think that the EU is getting just as fed up as we are.

I don't see any point in a public vote: we cannot trust MPs to adhere to the result whichever way it falls. There seems to be just three alternative endings: accept Boris/May's eternal imprisonment; a hard brexit; rescind article 50.

We should definitely have a General Election and HOPE that there's a clear majority winner: a vague hope indeed.

richp007

41 - 33.

And unusually both seem to be made up of Remainers and Leavers.

I wonder how many Leavers who didn't support May's have supported this one?

Pacifico

Me for one. My key objection to Mays 'deal' was the backstop and the level playing field provisions and both have now been removed.