Ste7en
Publish time 25-11-2019 21:42:29
Wow. I thought it was rife. You'd think so according to the press. But if only 0.06% have been reported...
gamerste
Publish time 25-11-2019 21:42:30
More have been reported iirc.
People have an issue rightly or wrongly with the criticism of the state of Israel.
Some believe that to be antisemetic others believe that criticism of Israel for the way it handles it's foreign policy is justified.
I long to live in a world where when I watch or read the news, it's not all people dying here there and everywhere.
Crisis all over the world especially in the middle east.
Is it to much to ask for people just to get along with each other.
Bl4ckGryph0n
Publish time 25-11-2019 21:42:30
There is absolutely no issue with critiquing Israel. Not when it’s done in a non anti Semitic manner. Please don’t that conflating and deflecting. Interestingly doing that can make it anti Semitic again data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
If you can’t see that the problem is with the leadership and their inaction and just talk down the issue, than you are exactly part of the problem.
for example, why did Labour find it necessary to play silly little games like not adhering to the internationally accepted definition of what anti semitische is? It’s the entirety of their behaviour that was and continues to be appalling.
doug56hl
Publish time 25-11-2019 21:42:30
The 'internationally accepted definition' you refer to is part of a misinformation narrative. Basically it is not internationally accepted...
In mid-July, an unprecedented joint statement signed by more than 40 Jewish organisations around the world (including seven in the UK) was published critiquing the IHRA definition.
although the IHRA is an international body with representatives from 31 countries, only six of those countries have, to date, formally adopted the definition themselvesIn spite of a call for local authorities to adopt the definition by the UK’s central government in early 2017, less than a third of councils have responded and several of those have chosen not to include any of the controversial examples contained within the working definitionSeveral high-profile bodies have rejected or distanced themselves from the working definition, including the EU’s Fundamental Rights Agency (a successor to the body that drafted the original wording on which the definition is based) and academic institutions including the London School of Economics and the School of Oriental and African Studies.Mainstream academic and legal opinion has been overwhelmingly critical of the IHRA definition, including formal opinions produced by three senior UK barristersand one former appeals court judge What has happened though is that the media has distorted and misreported Labour especially in relation to the 'universally' and 'global' adoption of the IHRA defintion. The MRC found 27 examples of misleading and 28 examples of inaccurate reporting made in regard to the IHRA definition.
The Media Reform Coalition has conducted in-depth research on the controversy surrounding antisemitism in the Labour Party, focusing on media coverage of the crisis during the summer of 2018. Following extensive case study research, we identified myriad inaccuracies and distortions in online and television news including marked skews in sourcing, omission of essential context or right of reply, misquotation, and false assertions made either by journalists themselves or sources whose contentious claims were neither challenged nor countered. Overall, our findings were consistent with a disinformation paradigm.
https://www.mediareform.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Labour-antisemitism-and-the-news-FINAL-CORRECTED.pdf
....we can say with some certainty that there have been prevalent errors, omissions and skews in the mainstream coverage. This was no anomaly: almost all of the problems observed in both the framing and sourcing of stories were in favour of a particular recurrent narrative: that the Labour Party has been or is being lost to extremists, racists and the ‘hard left’.
New MRC research finds inaccuracies and distortions in media coverage of antisemitism and the Labour Party - Media Reform Coalition
Greg Hook
Publish time 25-11-2019 21:42:30
Like others, I wouldn't say I hate Corbyn. I'm sure he is a nice guy.
I just don't want him as the leader of the Labour party.
He has taken the Labour party from a close main opposition party to one that could even drop down to become only the third biggest party.
He has done absolutely nothing to combat antisemitism that is rife in the party.
The Labour policies on so many issues are complete nonsense.
Momentum are a terrible group and need dumping.
He is unable to make a decision on Brexit which will cost Labour a lot of votes.
One good thing is that when Labour lose heavily in the December election, Corbyn will have no choice but to go. Whether he wants to or not.
By the way, I was a life long Labour voter, so this isn't the words of a Tory just bashing Corbyn again.
psikey
Publish time 25-11-2019 21:42:30
This is an example of Momentum labour. Kevin has represented my ward for a couple decades now and seat has always had a local MP to represent but now parachute Corbynistas into place.
/proxy.php?image=https://images-a.jpimedia.uk/imagefetch/w_620,f_auto,ar_3:2,q_auto:low,c_fill/if_h_lte_200,c_mfit,h_201/https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/webimage/1.10057802.1571408361!/image/image.jpg&hash=a5f012914e2cf17a3678ab0840478c8b&return_error=1 'Illusion of choice' accusations as Rother Valley MP Kevin Barron hits out at selection process for his successor The selection process for a new Labour general election candidate in South Yorkshire has been branded an “illusion of choice” after the leaked shortlist did not include anyone who lived there. /proxy.php?image=https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/assets/images/favicons/yorkshire/apple-touch-icon-57x57.png&hash=a6ef3911a7dd177322c95917f0d25f83&return_error=1 www.yorkshirepost.co.uk
Bl4ckGryph0n
Publish time 25-11-2019 21:42:31
Yet they have now accepted it. The fact that they made an issue where there should be no issue is one of the signed. It really doesn’t have to be so hard.
Furthermore If they dealt swiftly and decisive with the issues raised in the party that part wouldn’t have become such an issue.
Pacifico
Publish time 25-11-2019 21:42:31
Looks like Dianne Abbott has cracked Labours antisemitism problem.. data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
Nick Robinson: Do you accept you haven’t done enough (to resolve the problem of anti-Semitism)?
Diane Abbott: ‘…it’s not every element of the Jewish community that believes Jeremy is an anti-Semite.’
NR: ‘Well every major Jewish newspaper says it, every major Jewish representative body says it.’
DA: ‘Yeah, well, the Hasidic community in Stamford Hill doesn’t say that…’
Bl4ckGryph0n
Publish time 25-11-2019 21:42:31
And I rest my case. It is still so ingrained in their behaviour. Labour for the many but not for the Jew.
Liquid101
Publish time 25-11-2019 21:42:31
It's a difficult one.
You could argue that the best case scenario is that Labour lose, but not heavily and Corbyn stands down. Boris uses his small majority to deliver his flavour of the withdrawal agreement.
Labour rebuilds, then manages to win another election before the trade agreement is signed off, allowing us to sign up to a labour inspired free trade agreement with Freedom of Movement data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
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