imightbewrong Publish time 24-11-2019 22:41:02

Okay so fobful entry then? data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

Keys can take many forms - they don't need to be 'turned' to be a key.A key is something uniquely coded to a lock - could be generalised as.

Dony Publish time 24-11-2019 22:41:02

Fobless?

imightbewrong Publish time 24-11-2019 22:41:03

But you need it?

IronGiant Publish time 24-11-2019 22:41:03

It's more like a contactless card than a key is it not?

imightbewrong Publish time 24-11-2019 22:41:03

They have electronic security keys to authenticate the transaction - same goes for a 'fob' - some kind of unique authentication, aka a key.

Maybe it should be called 'pressless entry' or 'turnless start'.Or 'nothingful start' for when you wake up and it started and left without you data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

IronGiant Publish time 24-11-2019 22:41:03

"Keyless" entry: you don't need to stick a carved piece of metal into a mechanical lock to get in the car. Most of us including you have had this for decades.
"Keyless" start, same principle data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

I have handleless entry on the sliding doors. press a button on the fob and one or both will slide open as if by magic //static.avforums.com/styles/avf/smilies/clap.gif

I don't consider my fob has digital handles data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

imightbewrong Publish time 24-11-2019 22:41:03

Look I'll be honest - I was hoping to use 'keyless entry' to demonstrate why 'wireless charging' was so called as some people were struggling with that in another thread - but it's all gone a bit Spanish Inquisition data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

IronGiant Publish time 24-11-2019 22:41:03

My car still has a mechanical key data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7I can't start it without one.Does that help any?

wongataa Publish time 24-11-2019 22:41:04

As the first gear change will be when the car moves off that is pointless as it will still be in range of everything as it needed to be to be unlocked and started.The second gear change will usually be very shortly afterwards and so is also not a good candidate.After that you get into issues with having a car stopped in the middle of a road which can be dangerous or at least inconvenient.How would you like it if emergency services were blocked from getting somewhere (maybe your house) by a car that was stolen and auto disabled itself in the road and bocked it?

The safest way for auto disabling to happen in on engine off as at that point the car is likely to be parked somewhere.Of course this does mean the car could have been driven quite a long way at this point.

imightbewrong Publish time 24-11-2019 22:41:05

How about if instead of disabling it, loud warning klaxons start going off? data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
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