Canon EOS M50

aVdub

Specifications & Features - Canon EOS M50 - Canon UK

Been thinking about buying an 80D within the next few months and was pretty much set on that until I see the M50 and see that it offered me pretty much what I wanted, but with the added 4K.

Not having experience at all of using mirrorless I thought I'd ask here in the hope someone could add a few plus's and minus's of using this.
My photography is mixed and not of selling quality but I enjoy it.

Thanks

rancidpunk

Main disadvantage I can see is the limited lens range, but not sure if the adaptor can overcome this. Seems an interesting addition to the canon arsenal.

aVdub

The adaptor is what is leaning me towards this and thinking that the 80D might be too much for what I do.

dave_bass5

Ive been thinking of downsizing my 80D as a back up camera. Almost got the M5 earlier this month but im glad i waited. Ill be ordering the M50 as soon as its in stock at my usual dealer.
I plan on using my EF/EF-S lenses with it. I still have the adaptor from when i had the first M camera (horrible thing). its a shame to see Canon haven't really added much to the M line of lenses since the first one came out, but my intention isnt to use them anyway.
The M50 will be a step down from the 80D, but other than poor battery life i cant see any real issues.

wysinawyg

Presumably a tiny EVF?  Its one downside of the A7iii (vs A9 and A7Riii) that gets missed in the read of the specs / most of the commentary.  Apparently the same viewfinder as the M5 but I expect thats a lot smaller than the 80D.

Fewer manual controls - I do like a front dial.

And I'd be wary of buying it for the 4k - rubbish autofocus in 4k mode (no dual pixel AF) and a massive crop factor meaning its using a sensor smaller than the micro 4/3s cameras.

80D vs M50 seems an odd comparison.  If you're okay with smaller and fewer controls then you can get one of the newer Canon DSLRs that will be smaller, cheaper and lighter than the 80D but with the same sensor and picture quality (if not better PQ).  

Though the M50 does seem to be cheaper than any of the 24mp DSLRs except for the 200D or whatever it is.  Definitely an interesting one though.

dave_bass5

Well, first off I’m not buying it for 4K. I have no interest in that side of things (I’ve never used it on my 5D4).

Obviously I am ok with losing the controls. Ive had my 80D for almost 2 years but been shooting with Canon DSLR’s for almost 13 years. I can appreciate the loss of control, but I’m used to doing a lot of the adjustments on a read LCD these days.

I’d buy one of the smaller, cheaper DSLR’s if Canon would take the mirror out of them, otherwise ill stick to buying a Mirrorless ;-)

Smaller EVF? Meh, I use live view more than a OFV so not a downside. Having owned and loved a Sony A6000 I can quite happily use a smaller EVF if its there, although using the rear LCD will be the norm.  

I really wouldn’t have posted about getting rid of the 80D if I hadn’t meant it.  I never ‘compared’ the two cameras as such, I said I was happy with losing some of the 80D features. If I wanted a traditional but smaller DSLR, I also have a 650D, although its getting quite long in the tooth.

wysinawyg

Sorry Dave, no offence meant and probably shouldn’t have grabbed your quote as my post was meant more for the OP than you. But your battery life criticism was the only one raised and from the OP’s perspective (where it sounds like their main camera?) it’s a very different situation to if you’re looking for a small backup.

wysinawyg

Oh, and on the mirrorless vs DSLR side my 80D is currently the backup to an A9 so I can definitely appreciate the benefits of going down the mirrorless route

12harry

It's my present view that 4K ( video),  isn't a reason to buy any camera - although camcorders are much easier to use, if you plan to make movies - ie with a Start Middle and End and involving much heartache at the Edit stage, where the FUN starts.
Editing 4K implies a very fast PC and upgrades to projectors/ TV that many folks won't really notice, unless it's almost side-by-side.

Furthermore, the movie-mode on most Stills camera is an "Extra" so the makers aren't always that interested as they continue to believe their customers only want to take Stills. Despite pressure from Wedding Clients who will demand multi-camera Video shoots like the Films; if given a choice.
Just to throw in a spanner - - - - the FZ2000 ( Panasonic) is quite a mighty camera that includes ND filters[DYOR], for shallow DoF ( much loved in Movie-Mode . . . but elsewhere too?).

It won't have the kudos of a Canon, but who cares if it makes good pictures?

Cheers!

dave_bass5

No offence taken, just thought I’d make my position clear.
The battery life issue is quite a big one, and has stopped me going over to Mirrorless in the past. Seems like the M50 is one of the worst offenders. Saying that, 3rd party batteries are cheap, and I don’t plan on using the camera a lot, as I love my 5D4 too much.