LCD -matrices,differences and what models are placed *Part 2*

albani

yep another panel lottary

on the other hand Sharp OK but LGD no

nustop

Hi I'm new here and confused!What type of matrice does my Philips 40PFL5007K have?In this forum a TPV link says 46" is LG/LC320EUE-SEM1 (S-IPS):Someone said 40" is Samsung S-PVA.The recent update of Digitalversus review says that it is not Sharp.Which one is it?If answered before my apologies but I havent seen it.
ps: close up photo shows pattern like S-PVA!

hristoslav2

http://www.fullhd.gr/media/k2/items/cache/94e102e340f5769ee855fd1f57dc96be_XL.jpg

albani
Toshiba's 84" 4K LED - have LG panel
LG Display LC840EQD-SEA1 Overview - Panelook.com

nustop

Look table in this post
Philips LCD TV / FAQ -

Philips 40PFL5007K - panel cod - 400 - LK400D3LC(Sharp)
Philips 40PFL5007K - panel cod - 3хх - LTA400HV(Samsung)

Philips 40PFL5507 TV: A Victim of its Own Success

nustop

Hristoslav2
thanks very much for the info but how do you explain the info in this document?
http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/4/46pfl5007h_12/46pfl5007h_12_ep3_eng.pdf .
It says 46 5507 has LG/LC320EUE-SEM1.Doesn't the 32 here denote to panel size?How is a 32"panel used in a 46" tv?Is it a misprint?
On rear panel sticker of my tv there is this number 396.According to the info you provided  this means it is a Sharp panel but I suspect my close up photo(very bad sorry!) shows a Sharp UV2A pixel pattern?

sinistro

They have it here over the"mark 2" Philips PFL5527H:  Philips 40PFL5507: Full Review

I have been looking for the 46'' and here ( spain ) I see the 46pfl5537 ( ''mark3'' ??).

So now I wonder which panels are used on the 46'' line. Any info on this?

hristoslav2

This is a mistake in filling out the table in the document.
LG panels has only in - 35x7, 4xx7, 6xx7
LG not produce 40-inch panels.
http://www.lgdisplay.com/
http://www.lgdisplay.com/lgdhp/eng/product/lcdList.dev#

I apologize for writing .... I've switched codes panels.
Philips 40PFL5xx7K - panel cod - 400 - LK400D3LC(Sharp)
Philips 40PFL5xx7K - panel cod - 396 - LTA400HV(Samsung)
The panel of your TV is SPVA


All models of the fifth series 5007, 5507, 5527, 5537 used the same panels.

nustop

Thats great info Hristoslav2 thank you very much!

TvFinder

Hi Hristoslav2,

testing different tv (Sony HX855, Panasonic GT50, Samsung ES7000) I have the impression that even if they have double core processing, micro dimming and whatever, still the images are affected by some issues.
Don't you believe that first thing the tv should have the right panel and then the right electronic?

We have talked a lot about these tv models and everytime you you suggest the top level to have the best pictures.
In these days I have had some of the best tv but I see not a great pictures.

On the other hand we have seen a middle class tv like Philips 5507 receiveng a lot of good reviews just because of its Sharp panel, while the same model with Samsung panel is performing much worse.

So my doubt is: how it could be better a Philips 8/7 series than the 5xxx that are bringing panels that seem provide a lower picture level?
Are the manufacturer compensating the lack of performance of the panel through the picture processing?
Because if to have a nice picture I have to see a lot of electronic working behind and then to have an artificial picture, maybe it would be better to stay at a middle range tv but with a panel very well performing...

Am I wrong?

Thanks for any your thought.
Cheers

Qbaas

Philips uses three types of matrix in PFL5xx7:

40PFL5 ** 7-LK400D3LC LCD (Sharp) - UV2A
                                                                                                                                               

40PFL5 ** 7 LTA400HV-LCD (Samsung) -SPVA
                                                                                                                                               

and ...?

46PFL5 ** 7 LTA460HW-LCD (Samsung) - PSA??
                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                       

hristoslav2

Hi TvFinder

When choosing a TV, most important things are
1 - type and model videopanel ( Contrast,  dynamics and viewing angle )
2 - CPU (Tolerable error rate and speed of operations)
3 - Software (right algorithms and the number of bugs)
And - The quality of the incoming signal.
If you compare 8 and 7  Phillips series with the fifth series, you will notice that the videohpanels placed in the high ranges are SPVA   PSA

PSA - technology makes quick work of the panel (dynamics), which is good for 3D panel which need a high speed response,  but at the expense of decreased contrast and viewing angle.
5хх7 - 5000:1 contrast
8xx7, 7xx7 - 4000:1 contrast

Qbaas
LTA460HW - SPVA