Ultion Smart Lock

florinsim

As that guy is saying in his review, if weak locks will appear on the market, burglars will adapt and start picking locks..
To stay on topic, i'm comparing the price of Ultion   MT5 bolt vs. Nuki v2   MT5 (as i don't currently have a bolt with emergency feature to work with 2 keys simultaneously). Looking for BF offers but couldn't find much as of yet.

27neth

The euro cylinder that comes with the Ultion smart lock isn’t a standard cylinder so you can’t just swap it for a Mul-T lock cylinder.

florinsim

It looks to me as an adjustable euro cylinder (half cylinder with tail); Yale, Tesa have this available, so there are options. Just needs a bit of care with measurements when ordering.

dave77

Another option. This one looks like it just clamps over your existing lock and handle with your existing key inside the unit. I can't see how this can work though, on my lock (Ultion) if a key is on the inside I can't unlock from the outside.

                                                https://www.amazon.co.uk/NUKI-profile-cylinder-keyless-compatible/dp/B07Q32R6DK               

Puntoboy

I've seen this before. I think I prefer the Ultion though. I will be buying the Ultion cylinders for the rest of the doors of the house anyway.

Puntoboy

I contacted Ultion and sent them a link to that video posted. Here is there response:

florinsim

Looking around i found other 3 videos on youtube, from different people, picking this lock very easy - and yes, first pin was that one in Ultion's video. One of those guys declared he has no experience picking locks (and it can be seen, it took him one whole minute..). My personal choice is not to trust this cylinder - and it's a pitty they did it this way.
If i go Ultion route i need to find another compatible cylinder - and that increases Ultion's price to ~ 350£, and so Nuki becomes an attractive solution at ~ 180£ these days, with your existing cylinder (~280£ with exchanged cylinder)
Regarding Nuki - yes it works with the key on the inside; there are so called "emergency" cylinders that allow 2 keys operated at the same time. What i don't like with Nuki is the plastic enclosure and the bulk, definitely Ultion looks better in my eyes.

Puntoboy

I have no concerns over Ultion at all. When were those videos posted? Ultion said they've changed the design. Were these videos using the new locks?

florinsim

Min.6:45. The order of pins seems different from Ultion's video, but are the same pins.

Then                                  by Lock noob

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Look, i'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I don't have any shares with Yale or anyone else. I'm just thinking that burglars have youtube too... Too many feeds to go unnoticed...

Puntoboy

Well I sent a link to the first one and you saw their reply, that's an old video now, in fact they are all from last year and no mention of how old the locks are.