What is max lag deemed acceptable for gaming?

Dinky Dragon

Not off topic at all, I calibrated mine so the black levels were spot on as was the color gamut. I had set it to 709 and intermediate which opened up the option to use xvYCC (not available in any other source)

Like I said though, it looked great. Stood up easily against modern LCDs, Samsung A series were one of a kind and best of their gen for sure.

m1ket

Ive used cheap to expensive tvs over the years never noticed it

silvercue

Sorry that is incorrect.  I spent nearly £1000 on top of the range LG in Jan and the input lag is appalling - even on gaming mode.  TVs are getting far worse for it.

I calibrated it as 95-100ms in Rock Band calibration test, which I had to do as it wsa totally unplayable.  My old Goodman hads 0ms lag.

Check the TV section - lots of comments.

I would not dream of playing online games like quake over 40ms when I played that more seriously.

SteveU30

It wouldn't be the LW550T would it? I've just read a review on it and the response times are shocking (130ms in game mode!)

silvercue

Don;t think so - I will go dig it out.

And when I say "top of the range" it wasn't literallythe best, but a very expensive bit of kit.

Disapointing is an understatement.

virtual_boy

Is it your opinion that my post is incorrect in it's entirety or just a certain part or parts?

mattclarkie

Lag is capable of being much worse now as TVs have 200, 400 and even 600hz modes, along with plenty of other nonsense slowing things down. But if you turn it all off (and you should the instant you get the TV) then it should be within the acceptable region assuming your TV lets you turn it all off as some won't as the processing is there to hide massive flaws in the TVs hardware.
My Sony TVs introduce no more lag than my internet connection does, but with all the junk turned on it can be noticeable, the simplest test of lag is to check the audio delay when using an optical connection to an amp compared to the TV speakers as the echo is easy to notice.

SteveU30

Do you have a large screen Sony Matt? If so, what model number is it just out of interest?

silvercue

The point that any TV will have les lag than lag caused by online latency.

Unles you are still playing on a dial up modem the statement is incorrect.

I know that for a fact as one of mine has ~100 ms input lag in gaming mode.  Due to being totally horrified by this I did some research and found lots of the new sets are getting far worse for this.

virtual_boy

You will notice I said online lag not latency (there is a difference).
Even if you look at the latency, when your connection is performing at the best of its ability there may be someone else who's connection can communicate faster with the host, there  are probably less connection hops between the opponent and the host giving priority to his scripted actions.
Even if you have a fantastic upload speed many if not most people still have interleaving enabled on their connection which in itself add's around 50ms and some games have latency compensation where players  with good connections have their sync delayed in an attempt  to  normalize latency across all players in the lobby.
Even with a TV as poorly performing as the previously mentioned LW550T with it's >130ms (in game mode) it can be reduced to 60ms by implementing the xbox's VESA timings via HDMI or DVI or perhaps further still by using a VGA connection, this may still be too much but then again LG TV's are notorious for their poor gaming performance but as you say this is now beginning to be the case with other manufacturers predominantly on thier 3D models.
There are always going to be some truely terrible TV's when used for gaming but if you make an informed choice I think you would be happy with most.